Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

[The RDBD]

I'm not arguing with that, but it's the core of a capitalist economy mate, and that isn't going to change merely because we don't like the conclusions that they'll draw which will lead to an economic crash.

It was all predicted, by virtually every economic expert out there. You can't cry arse about it post 'winning'.

Who is crying about it ??
Merely laughing at the fact that the immediate knee-jerk actions of a thoroughly discredited industry sector
is so loudly proclaimed as some definitive statement of how the UK will now fare in the world.

 

[DMD]

Long story short mate, a 40 something entrepreneur, who in his niche industry is recognised as an innovator, goes to the wall because a lot of the country voted on something they don't understand and some more of the country voted for a change that had no plan attached to it.

Amongst those voters the wilfully uneducated and unemployed.

Rule Chav Britannia.

There's a fair few fishing communities that know how he feels.

 

[The RDBD]

I know everyone is panicking about Brexit and Trump becoming president, but there's no need to worry, Jesus will save us

Hope that helps'

Ricky Gervias

Going for the Muslim vote there.
I would be worried if I was him : he has quite a fat neck. <ISIS>

 

[Tobes]

It's an over simplified version. Sadly, when the debate looks to be moving beyond that, you and a few others pipe up and disrupt it.

Oh the irony.

If over simplified (and I was deliberately simplifying it btw) and you wish to contradict the content then do so, crack on love the floor is all yours.

The only one seeking to stifle the debate is you, as your retort offered nothing but snide comment and deflection (your standard MO yet again). You're ****ing hilarious pal

 

[Stan]

A decent wage for someone of my age but not wealthy. A tanked pound for 12 months, should that prove to be the case, shouldn't do the business I work for too much harm.

So you're employed by someone else and you don't rely on importing from the EU? But you're happy to call judgement over someone who runs his own business and bought into the EU trade opportunity?

I'm fairly certain you're also young and have no dependants.

 

[DMD]

Why bother to discuss with a ****wit who just thinks he knows more about everything than everybody.

I've got news for you, you give away your stupidity with every post you make about things you know absolutely nothing about - but, of course are too pig headed to admit that.

I worked in those markets for over 20 yrs, but of course you know more about them than I do!

Why did you give up your stall?

Those first two paragraphs are pretty much how you come across. What's your motto, people who think they know everything, are annoying to those of us that actually do?

 

[Treble]

There you go again, stopping a discussion expanding.

Ok then expand it DMD. You become cryptic. You come across as some who's saying "ah you just don't get it, I know more but I'm not going to tell you because you're not worth discussing it with". That comes across as someone who's afraid to engage or argue the point in case it does get scrutinised and/or undermined. Not having a pop at all, but tearing away at other people's arguments or concerns without offering any alternative is going to to give you the same reaction every time. Surely you can see that people at least are having some dialogue with RBDB and AFCFW even, if it is a mildly heated one.

Anyway, I expect you'll probably give a dismissive one line answer but I hope not. It doesn't help though.

 

[afcftw]

Long story short mate, a 40 something entrepreneur, who in his niche industry is recognised as an innovator, goes to the wall because a lot of the country voted on something they don't understand and some more of the country voted for a change that had no plan attached to it.

Amongst those voters the wilfully uneducated and unemployed.

Rule Chav Britannia.

Since he is such a seasoned entrepreneur I'm sure he will have put contingency measures in place and will innovate his way to successfully navigating the period of uncertainty

Though I completely agree a lot of the country voted in this referendum without having an understanding of the EU, the real pros and cons on both sides of the debate or what the realities of either outcome would actually be. Unfortunately the campaign was fought on both sides by scaremongering, misleading the public and exaggerating everything. Only those who chose to research and inform themselves will have had any idea about the decision they were really making.

 

[pieguts]

If it takes ten years then potentially we dont exit the eu for ten years as article 50 states that the minimum to me is 2 years but could be extended if matters are not resolved.

As for brexiting, i was one of the london based people who supported brexiteering. Saying that i abstained from my postal vote as i knew my vote could potentially cause job losses especially (all the eu granted ones) but i didnt want to vote remain as i didnt believe in it.

To the people thinking about the immediate job losses, i actually think the eu is in a big financial mess and that with the uk leaving its more of a 1 step back 2 steps forward. We can negotiate trade agreements with other countries (piskie seems to think its like a doctors surgery 1 trade agreement to be negotiated whereas countries negotiate in parallel) rather than being stuck behind a highly beauracratic eu government who cannot agree on the trade agreements until everyone agrees.

With respect to the EU, its slowly making itself more powerful from what it had originally came from and that troubles me which is also why i didnt like it.

For the people who think that contributing to the smaller countries of the EU to build up their economy, do you think the brain drain of these countries helps them to grow as most of their young and intelligent citizens decide to move to work in the most prosperous and higher paid countries of germany france and england?

Ok then expand it DMD. You become cryptic. You come across as some who's saying "ah you just don't get it, I know more but I'm not going to tell you because you're not worth discussing it with". That comes across as someone who's afraid to engage or argue the point in case it does get scrutinised and/or undermined. Not having a pop at all, but tearing away at other people's arguments or concerns without offering any alternative is going to to give you the same reaction every time. Surely you can see that people at least are having some dialogue with RBDB and AFCFW even, if it is a mildly heated one.

Anyway, I expect you'll probably give a dismissive one line answer but I hope not. It doesn't help though.

Am I on ignore now

 

[Treble]

So you're employed by someone else and you don't rely on importing from the EU? But you're happy to call judgement over someone who runs his own business and bought into the EU trade opportunity?

I'm fairly certain you're also young and have no dependants.

That's the problem at the moment. There are so many who cannot relate to those whose jobs are directly linked to EU. Because they themselves are ok they seem to think everyone else will be as well. It's heads in the sand.

 

[DMD]

Oh the irony.

If over simplified (and I was deliberately simplifying it btw) and you wish to contradict the content then do so, crack on love the floor is all yours.

The only one seeking to stifle the debate is you, as your retort offered nothing but snide comment and deflection (your standard MO yet again). You're ****ing hilarious pal

How the **** can anyone have a proper discussion when you and the emigrant just pop up with the same old **** rather than looking at the wider picture?

Yep, the current market has dipped, it did so at the time of the vote announcement, we get that, it's a given fact. It's the questions around that that will help to move stuff forward, which is what the country needs to do.

My experience of financial experts, both personal and from the national and international events is that vary few of them are actually very good.

 

[Tobes]

Why bother to discuss with a ****wit who just thinks he knows more about everything than everybody.

I've got news for you, you give away your stupidity with every post you make about things you know absolutely nothing about - but, of course are too pig headed to admit that.

I worked in those markets for over 20 yrs, but of course you know more about them than I do!

This ^

 

[Stan]

Since he is such a seasoned entrepreneur I'm sure he will have put contingency measures in place and will innovate his way to successfully navigating the period of uncertainty

Though I completely agree a lot of the country voted in this referendum without having an understanding of the EU, the real pros and cons on both sides of the debate or what the realities of either outcome would actually be. Unfortunately the campaign was fought on both sides by scaremongering, misleading the public and exaggerating everything. Only those who chose to research and inform themselves will have had any idea about the decision they were really making.

Even with the daft smiley face at the end of it, your first paragraph is patronising bollocks.

 

[NSIS]

Am I on ignore now

Course not.

 

[Treble]

Am I on ignore now

Yes

 

[PINKIE]

Since he is such a seasoned entrepreneur I'm sure he will have put contingency measures in place and will innovate his way to successfully navigating the period of uncertainty

Though I completely agree a lot of the country voted in this referendum without having an understanding of the EU, the real pros and cons on both sides of the debate or what the realities of either outcome would actually be. Unfortunately the campaign was fought on both sides by scaremongering, misleading the public and exaggerating everything. Only those who chose to research and inform themselves will have had any idea about the decision they were really making.

The biggest problem now as I see it is that the Govt are sitting ducks with no leader, their contingency budget has been blown out of the water by their own MPs and the Brexit MPs have admitted that they have 'No plan'. Labour are in turmoil too and seem determined to self destruct when they should be uniting to oust the Tories.

In the meantime the banks are making plans to up sticks and leave the UK, and the uncertainty is deepening. The idea that this will be a short dip followed by a stronger UK, is pie in the sky as far as I can see.

 

[Tobes]

How the **** can anyone have a proper discussion when you and the emigrant just pop up with the same old **** rather than looking at the wider picture?

Yep, the current market has dipped, it did so at the time of the vote announcement, we get that, it's a given fact. It's the questions around that that will help to move stuff forward, which is what the country needs to do.

My experience of financial experts, both personal and from the national and international events is that vary few of them are actually very good.

So what is your personal experience of renowned economic experts then?

Let's hear why - based on your seemingly extensive knowledge of their previous advice - that they're not to be trusted on this basic economic prediction that is based on the massive leap into the unknown that Nation has had inflicted on it here.

The floor's all yours petal x

 

[pieguts]

Yes

I hope that's not a burka, you start custard off again!!

 

[NSIS]

I hope that's not a burka, you start custard off again!!

 

[Stan]

So what is your personal experience of renowned economic experts then?

Let's hear why - based on your seemingly extensive knowledge of their previous advice - that they're not to be trusted on this basic economic prediction that is based on the massive leap into the unknown that Nation has had inflicted on it here.

The floor's all yours petal x

I've asked him before what industry he works in. He ignored the question.