Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

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How will you vote in the EU referendum ?


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Well low wages are an absolute disgrace and I do sympathise with those people who are suffering because an inexhaustable supply of cheap labour is allowing employers to take the piss. But the answer has to be to raise the minimum wage and hold the bad employers to account, not blame immigrants.


I think people are blaming immigration policies from preventing exactly what you suggest, rather than blaming immigrants themselves. I think we'd all like to think we'd do the same as them for our future and family if we hadn't been born so fortunate.
 
You could equally have replied the same to the post I replied to, but then that wouldn't be right to be seen to be contradicting a fellow remain. or siding with an outer, even if you are.

It's easier if you just argue the post, rather than the username. <ok>

I have argued the post. You just choose to ignore that!..
 
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So you accuse people of playing the race card yet you mention the Orlando murderer was a Muslim but simply called the MP killer mentally ill.
So presumably only you can mention race huh?


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So you accuse people of playing the race card yet you mention the Orlando murderer was a Muslim but simply called the MP killer mentally ill.
So presumably only you can mention race huh?


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You have lost me here
 
So you accuse people of playing the race card yet you mention the Orlando murderer was a Muslim but simply called the MP killer mentally ill.
So presumably only you can mention race huh?


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Not difficult to be fair
 
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So you accuse people of playing the race card yet you mention the Orlando murderer was a Muslim but simply called the MP killer mentally ill.
So presumably only you can mention race huh?


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I haven't checked it, but have no reason to disbelieve a quote from Peter Hitchens that said that the perpetrators of all of the recent terrorist atrocities in Europe were not strict muslims by any stretch, and generally had a history of petty crime, drinking drugs etc.

For me, a difference is that there is, without any doubt, groups that look for and manipulate people to commit acts of terror. So far, it seems to be radical islam that does this. I'm not aware of any right wing groups behaving in the same way, but would accept they could have started.

I believe that will be a problem in or out of Europe, although right wing extremism is growing across Europe, with the lack of control on borders and politics fanning it.
 
I haven't checked it, but have no reason to disbelieve a quote from Peter Hitchens that said that the perpetrators of all of the recent terrorist atrocities in Europe were not strict muslims by any stretch, and generally had a history of petty crime, drinking drugs etc.

For me, a difference is that there is, without any doubt, groups that look for and manipulate people to commit acts of terror. So far, it seems to be radical islam that does this. I'm not aware of any right wing groups behaving in the same way, but would accept they could have started.

I believe that will be a problem in or out of Europe, although right wing extremism is growing across Europe, with the lack of control on borders and politics fanning it.

Yes, the same right wing extremism that's trying to fuel the Brexit vote!...
 
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