Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

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How will you vote in the EU referendum ?


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The photo on top is a guy called Andrew Edge of the charming English defence league, posing with his campaign poster by the side of the Kray Brothers' grave??

Then there's another pic with a guy holding the very same poster. And who's that on the right?!....

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The photo on top is a guy called Andrew Edge of the charming English defence league, posing with his campaign poster by the side of the Kray Brothers' grave??

Then there's another pic with a guy holding the very same poster. And who's that on the right?!....

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The more I see of the Leave mob in action, the more I want to take my country back from the clueless cretins and tragic racist ****wits clogging up the tv, internet and right ring press. I'm appalled at the prospect that my country may be associated in the minds of my neighbours with horrible ****s like Farage, Gove, and that posh blond dollop who's been cruising round my city on a ropey butchers bike for the last eight years.
 
The more I see of the Leave mob in action, the more I want to take my country back from the clueless cretins and tragic racist ****wits clogging up the tv, internet and right ring press. I'm appalled at the prospect that my country may be associated in the minds of my neighbours with horrible ****s like Farage, Gove, and that posh blond dollop who's been cruising round my city on a ropey butchers bike for the last eight years.

Eloquently put!...-<laugh>
 
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I'm making a general point that some people from other countries are happy to do the less glamorous jobs that some of the moaners in this country don't want to to as they'd rather be on the dole.
Exactly and their willingness to work hard for minimum wage seems to upset some people.
 
That's where some play the rules, it's bound to happen but it's interesting to see that it's not the free for all that some say it is.

The key to that is choice and control. We are effectively told what to have, with little opportunity to change it. Norway voters have far more say in if it's done or not.

For all of their ills, I've more confidence in a UK govt looking after our interests, than I have in unelected bods.
 
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My whole point is that if you think English people and Scots are the 'same' but want different rules to apply to French, Poles etc then you must think these people are 'different'. All the arguments about full schools, NHS, housing etc apply equally well to Scots moving to London or English people moving from Exeter to London or even English people being born in London. But the UKIP solution to these problems involves having a policy that only applies to the small part of the issue caused by migrants from outside of the UK.

The scots are governed by the same people as us. They even had a choice in the matter.
 
But UKIP wants to 'control' immigration from the EU but is completely comfortable with people moving between England and Scotland. You can't possibly have such a policy without inherent discrimination on racial grounds.


It's not, it's on political grounds, due to the vote they had.
 
The photo on top is a guy called Andrew Edge of the charming English defence league, posing with his campaign poster by the side of the Kray Brothers' grave??

Then there's another pic with a guy holding the very same poster. And who's that on the right?!....

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All cows have four legs, so all four legged creatures are cows, n'est pas?
 
It's not, it's on political grounds, due to the vote they had.

Scotland has its own parliament, many of it's own laws, etc. They were asked if they wanted total independence, both economic and political. They wisely chose to remain in the larger UK. Just as I hope the UK is sensible enough to remain in the greater EU.
 
I'm making a general point that some people from other countries are happy to do the less glamorous jobs that some of the moaners in this country don't want to to as they'd rather be on the dole.

So your solution is to pay people not to clean them, and bring in and pay extra people to do it instead? Marvellous, and not at all a sweeping generalisation of the indigenous work ethic,.

Of course, the low wages aren't anything to do with landlords profiteering from short term workers putting up with overcrowding, while they build a pot to take home, .
 
Exactly and their willingness to work hard for minimum wage seems to upset some people.

Well low wages are an absolute disgrace and I do sympathise with those people who are suffering because an inexhaustable supply of cheap labour is allowing employers to take the piss. But the answer has to be to raise the minimum wage and hold the bad employers to account, not blame immigrants.
 
Well low wages are an absolute disgrace and I do sympathise with those people who are suffering because an inexhaustable supply of cheap labour is allowing employers to take the piss. But the answer has to be to raise the minimum wage and hold the bad employers to account, not blame immigrants.
Yep on all counts.
 
Scotland has its own parliament, many of it's own laws, etc. They were asked if they wanted total independence, both economic and political. They wisely chose to remain in the larger UK. Just as I hope the UK is sensible enough to remain in the greater EU.

You could equally have replied the same to the post I replied to, but then that wouldn't be right to be seen to be contradicting a fellow remain. or siding with an outer, even if you are.

It's easier if you just argue the post, rather than the username. <ok>
 
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