Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

Of course! Silly me!....

 

Exactly! If it's illegal immigration that won't change because we leave the EU, it's illegal ffs!

Oh no hold on, I get it - when we're in EU we forget they're illegal, but when we're out of the EU we'll suddenly remember they're illegal and stop them at the border

 

Lets control our borders. Lets take back control. Lets decide our own destiny. Lets be independent. Lets trade with the world on our own. Lets give back jobs to British workers.

Explain how or what that means?

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David Cameron says we will do ok if we leave the EU, soon changed his tune. What is he getting out of it I wonder?

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9a47a260-8608-11e5-9f8c-a8d619fa707c.html#axzz4BUb9DeYh

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/30/uk-leaving-eu-not-heartbroken-david-cameron

 

Lets control our borders = Lets control our borders not the EU telling us he have to accept EU nationals

Lets take back control. = We control our laws

Lets decide our own destiny = as it says

Lets be independent = we run our own country not some unelected EU twat called Junkers

Lets trade with the world on our own = We can make our own deals to suit us and the other country, not be only 1 part of 28

Lets give back jobs to British workers = We get the jobs on a fair wage not some East European on minimum wage (and yes not all Brits are lazy), business have had it easy for too long, they get rich while we suffer.

 

The state of the stock market over the past few days confirms that the consensus is we're going to leave the EU. Hang onto your hats!

 

This time last year it dropped to 5600 and it rose again, so your point being....

 

My point being it's nose diving because investors are of the opinion that leaving the EU is going to be damaging to the UK s they are selling shares.

The same reason the market dived when it was thought Labour might win the general election (as you pointed out!).

There's no denying that the markets are telling us that leaving the EU is seen as a negative for the economy. That's not to say they won't recover in time but we're definitely in for some pain in the short to medium term. There will be a lot of people who voted leave who will have to accept that they were party to getting themselves made redundant.

 

This time it won't rise anywhere near as quickly, if at all!...

 

With the way the EU is failing I will not be surprised it will be slow, even with an in vote.

We all know the market spook, but it will rise, how fast is anyone's guess

 

As I've tried to explain, there is a lot of very imminent pain coming with a Yes vote. The economy will take a significant hit and will shrink markedly. How long and if it will ever recover, is anybody's guess.

But, count on this, the short to medium effects will be painful. Very painful for many!....

 

This is a nice idea in theory but not practical.

Many business are very concerned about Britain leaving the EU, not because they will lose cheap labour but because it will impact how much money they can make. When businesses are not performing as they'd like to they don't consider increasing wages to be the answer to their problems. In fact they are likely to want to reduce the wage bill and get rid of people, usually middle management as they are expensive but not always business critical.

 

I will not argue that point, but some business (large) do take the piss with wages and even Rose has said, immigration has kept wages low.

 

Yeah they do. Stagnant wages and deplorable working conditions have been a feature of this recession. But blaming immigrants for that is absurd. The problem is weak trade unions and employers allowed - encouraged even - by right wing governments to take the piss.

And make no mistake - with Britain out of the EU, there will be even less restraint on employers from a Boris led Tory government.

If you think working people are getting ****ed now, you ain't seen nothing yet. Wait til Boris and the **** Gove bin all the employment legislation currently protecting UK workers.

 

No, it is a Union Jack when it's on a ship, Union flag on land.

 

I've changed my mind. I'm voting to stay.

 

If remain wins next week they'll rocket mate.

If we vote to leave they'll crash.

 

Luckily you don't need to change your avatar.

 

Nice one. I just bet my brother that you would be the first to respond as you're obsessed with me. Tenner for me. He thinks it's hilarious. You really are a joke.

 

You can give my share to charity Bluey.

I'm not sure I've ever discussed the goings on of an internet football forum with any of my brothers. Sunday lunch round Bluey's must be an absolute scream!