Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

[Stan]

Looks like BMW will go bust then

You're a clueless dope Custard!

 

[DMD]

It's majorly opinion.

There's very little doubt that if we don't cut a deal with the EU, and we need to do it fairly quickly, that many top banks and businesses will activate their contingency plans and get ready to relocate.

I've already said that the EU needs to reform, and I think to an extent it will. It would have been to our advantage to have a seat at that table, but we've given that up.

It's just plain logic, pure and simple. You just choose to misread it.

They'd be as well to locate by caravan, just in case the elections in Europe bring about more change and they need to pop back.

The EU are disliked because uf their undemocratic control. They'very held back a few key decisions until after the referendum, such as the EU army announced today. I don't recall voting for that. Mind you, I don't recall oting on their economic or imigration policy either

They're showing that they don't understand or don't care about the mood of the people.

I prefer democracy.

 

[HRH Custard VC]

You really do believe all the bollocks you read in laughable rags like The Fail & The Excess, don't you?...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...-sad-cameron-eu-immigration-corbyn-leadership

Its in the Marxist rag as well

 

[NSIS]

They'd be as well to locate by caravan, just in case the elections in Europe bring about more change and they need to pop back.

The EU are disliked because uf their undemocratic control. They'very held back a few key decisions until after the referendum, such as the EU army announced today. I don't recall voting for that. Mind you, I don't recall oting on their economic or imigration policy either

They're showing that they don't understand or don't care about the mood of the people.

I prefer democracy.

I agree there needs to be reform. I think it will be forced on them by the people of Europe. And, as I've said, it would have been to our advantage to be at that table.

As for the businesses and the banks, it's not personal, purely pragmatic. If being headquartered in England is going to present problems in dealing with mainstream Europe, then quite simply, they'll move.

 

[HRH Custard VC]

You're a clueless dope Custard!

Its difficult to show sarcasm in text.

BMW need the UK market, we buy 20% of its cars, they dont want to lose that market share do they.

 

[Fez]

Backbone?

What the actual **** are you talking about? You sound like a member of Dads Army.

This has got nothing to do with a lack of 'backbone' and everything to do with what the more clued up amongst us can see coming from an economic perspective, and for what? A trade deal that is going to leave us with no change in immigration unless we pay a huge tariff. Awesome, well done for seeing that as a brilliant option for the country to take. Only you didn't did you? As you'd not even thought about what would realistically happen in terms of trade agreements and what the outcomes were likely to be. You thought that good old Blighty would be able to give it to Johnny Foreigner and they'd be grateful for it no doubt. Clueless

You seem to be the one making predictions; the politicians and industry experts tend to be more cautious, at the moment. Sorry, I missed the fact that you seem to think you are in the know. God help us.

 

[HRH Custard VC]

I agree there needs to be reform. I think it will be forced on them by the people of Europe. And, as I've said, it would have been to our advantage to be at that table.

As for the businesses and the banks, it's not personal, purely pragmatic. If being headquartered in England is going to present problems in dealing with mainstream Europe, then quite simply, they'll move.

They will not listen, they did not listen to us before, so why be at the table, with us leaving they will carry on as normal and try and get a superstate with just the Euro, one army etc.

But if they had given us control of movement the UK would have stayed in. Never underestimate the British

 

[Stan]

They will not listen, they did not listen to us before, so why be at the table, with us leaving they will carry on as normal and try and get a superstate with just the Euro, one army etc.

But if they had given us control of movement the UK would have stayed in. Never underestimate the British

 

[DMD]

I agree there needs to be reform. I think it will be forced on them by the people of Europe. And, as I've said, it would have been to our advantage to be at that table.

As for the businesses and the banks, it's not personal, purely pragmatic. If being headquartered in England is going to present problems in dealing with mainstream Europe, then quite simply, they'll move.

And as the indications are that the people running Europe aren't listening or don't give a toss about the views of the people, they'll perhaps find themselves coming back to the more settled and secure UK.

The banks will be considering those factors in their view of the future, even if you keep choosing not to.

 

[paultheplug]

Got this off facebook, so not mine

Only 36 per cent of people in the 18 – 24 year old category voted in the EU referendum. 64 per cent of young people did not bother to take themselves down to the polling station and place their vote.

Instead of complaining that 'old people took your future' and then signing a petition to try and reverse a democratic decision, get off your lazy, spoilt, special little snowflake arse and vote. If you don't vote, frankly you deserve to be ignored.

Ah Facebook. The Encyclopaedia Brittanica of the 21st century.

 

[NSIS]

They will not listen, they did not listen to us before, so why be at the table, with us leaving they will carry on as normal and try and get a superstate with just the Euro, one army etc.

But if they had given us control of movement the UK would have stayed in. Never underestimate the British

I believe that very soon they will have to listen.

There will be no European superstate - it's alarmist bollocks. Even Juncker has conceded that there's no appetite for it, Ffs!

Markel is very influential in mainland Europe. She is saying quite clearly that there will be no free trade without free movement. They will not allow the UK to cherry pick which parts of EU regs it likes, and ignore those it doesn't.

 

[HRH Custard VC]

I believe that very soon they will have to listen.

There will be no European superstate - it's alarmist bollocks. Even Juncker has conceded that there's no appetite for it, Ffs!

Markel is very influential in mainland Europe. She is saying quite clearly that there will be no free trade without free movement. They will not allow the UK to cherry pick which parts of EU regs it likes, and ignore those it doesn't.

Until the new PM sets out its stall we are all guessing.

Yes the superstate will be on hold for a bit, but it will still/may happen with a few countries then others will join.

 

[Fez]

I've no interest. I'm just stating facts.

No, it's an opinion, not a fact. That's my problem with you; whether through ignorance or something more distasteful, you do not distinguish between fact and opinion at all well. As you are a self-proclaimed expert, that is a very serious failing; although it does go a long way to explaining the continued ineptitude of the financial sector.

 

[DMD]

You seem to be the one making predictions; the politicians and industry experts tend to be more cautious, at the moment. Sorry, I missed the fact that you seem to think you are in the know. God help us.

He sounds like a frustrated trader that really wanted to be an economist...or a train driver.

Some of us lesser mortals made a few bob from recent events, but what do we know eh?

 

[HRH Custard VC]

Ah Facebook. The Encyclopaedia Brittanica of the 21st century.

Try and read it then, its quite right in this instance.

Yes facebook is a load of trollop

 

[Fez]

It's majorly opinion.

There's very little doubt that if we don't cut a deal with the EU, and we need to do it fairly quickly, that many top banks and businesses will activate their contingency plans and get ready to relocate.

I've already said that the EU needs to reform, and I think to an extent it will. It would have been to our advantage to have a seat at that table, but we've given that up.

It's just plain logic, pure and simple. You just choose to misread it.

I read what you write, nothing else. When you write the word fact, I take it in the context of your post.

 

[NSIS]

No, it's an opinion, not a fact. That's my problem with you; whether through ignorance or something more distasteful, you do not distinguish between fact and opinion at all well. As you are a self-proclaimed expert, that is a very serious failing; although it does go a long way to explaining the continued ineptitude of the financial sector.

You mean the 'ineptitude' that provides over 3% of the UK's total earnings.....

 

[Fez]

And what you say doesn't come across as even more arrogant bullshit??

I made my money in the City and I'm very comfortable with that, thank you.

You are just an angry, shouty little man who just thinks that if he shouts louder, that means that he's right!...

No, I'm someone who is quite reasonably challenging your self-proclaimed expertise. I'm not shouting and I'm not little, although what the relevance of that would be I really don't know.

Ah, so you are a City thief, taking your ill gotten gains to a country on it's arse. Good for you.

 

[paultheplug]

The petition for a second referendum has now been signed by over 4 million people. That is more than the number of people that voted for UKIP, the idiots that caused the first one to happen. Let's be democratic and allow a revote. If the leavers are so certain of their position they have nothing to fear. Well that is apart from the fact that they have admitted their lies and manipulation and they have no idea of a plan.

 

[NSIS]

No, I'm someone who is quite reasonably challenging your self-proclaimed expertise. I'm not shouting and I'm not little, although what the relevance of that would be I really don't know.

Ah, so you are a City thief, taking your ill gotten gains to a country on it's arse. Good for you.

More ignorant bullshit. Keep it up angry, shouty little man!..