Match Day Thread England v Hungary

[petersaxton]

No one, how he even got the job is beyond me.

As someone else said, we would have seen out croatia and Italy with a better manager. He was carried by the players he was constraining.

I don't really care for international football...but Southgate is dog ****, always has been!

Even as a player he wanted to take the ball out of defence but couldnt defend properly.

 

[Chillo]

That was ****e but it’s been obvious since the first Hungary game, the players are ****ed and just want to be on holiday …. I think chanting you don’t know what you are doing to the manager who took us to a first major final in over 50 years is poor ..

awww poor lambs.

 

[petersaxton]

I’m not saying Southgate is great, I’m saying he deserves more respect then fans chanting that . World Cup semi final and then a final is fantastic in respect to the majority of our history , whoever we played. 2014 we didn’t get out the group , 2016 we lost to Iceland , the team was on its knees , easy to forget the massive strides the team has made in those 6 years , I think chanting that is a joke to be honest , wel beat Iran 3-0 and it will all be Southgate you’re the one, fickle as ****

so you dont think he didnt know what he was doing?
you dont think it was more down to the players than the manager when we play well
for example, if we dont have a left back why dont we play 3 at the back rather than play a right back at left back?

 

[rovertiger]

Ah well, have we bought anyone yet?

 

[Edelman]

awww poor lambs.

Only English players. Get tired at the end of a season .

 

[Kempton]

We're not very good!

 

[Kalman]

KLP played every minute this past season and was still full of beans when he played for England u-21s but these poor senior England players. It’s been a long and gruelling season for them all. They’re probably tired.

 

[Chillo]

I’m not saying Southgate is great, I’m saying he deserves more respect then fans chanting that . World Cup semi final and then a final is fantastic in respect to the majority of our history , whoever we played. 2014 we didn’t get out the group , 2016 we lost to Iceland , the team was on its knees , easy to forget the massive strides the team has made in those 6 years , I think chanting that is a joke to be honest , wel beat Iran 3-0 and it will all be Southgate you’re the one, fickle as ****

a 4-0 home defeat and he deserves all the flak he is getting. you are only as good as your last game.
or 4

the way we played against what has since proven to be a poor team in the final with only 2 or 3 "predictable patterns of play" to their game spotted by a pundit but ignored by southgate, was poor and didnt merit any plaudits. i didnt buy into the hype at the time. i also thought we were lucky in avoiding the better teams.

 

[DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)]

Only English players. Get tired at the end of a season .

It’s not about that,,I just don’t think they looked overly interested in these games , I don’t blame them , seasons already getting ****ed about cos of the farcical decision to move the World Cup, all the preseasons starting early etc, it’s not about feeling sorry for them, just the ones who know they are already in the plane probably just not overly arsed, and I think it showed in the displays

 

[Chillo]

It’s not about that,,I just don’t think they looked overly interested in these games , I don’t blame them , seasons already getting ****ed about cos of the farcical decision to move the World Cup, all the preseasons starting early etc, it’s not about feeling sorry for them, just the ones who know they are already in the plane probably just not overly arsed, and I think it showed in the displays

and thats where man management comes into it. something which southgate i am sure hasnt a clue.

right lads. places are up for grabs, no ones place is secure. go out and show me who is hungry and wants to win a world cup.

 

[Kalman]

a 4-0 home defeat and he deserves all the flak he is getting. you are only as good as your last game.
or 4

the way we played against what has since proven to be a poor team in the final with only 2 or 3 "predictable patterns of play" to their game spotted by a pundit but ignored by southgate, was poor and didnt merit any plaudits. i didnt buy into the hype at the time. i also thought we were lucky in avoiding the better teams.

People give Southgate credit for getting England to a final but the manner in which we bottled it overrides that imo. We scored early then only had one more shot on target for the rest of the 120 minutes after that. That’s down to Southgate’s coaching.

To have two shots on target against Italy with the attacking talent this England squad had is criminal.

 

[DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)]

KLP played every minute this past season and was still full of beans when he played for England u-21s but these poor senior England players. It’s been a long and gruelling season for them all. They’re probably tired.

Yeah, almost like it was his first time in the squad and he needed to impress , nobody said anything about feeling sorry for them ffs …

 

[Edelman]

It’s not about that,,I just don’t think they looked overly interested in these games , I don’t blame them , seasons already getting ****ed about cos of the farcical decision to move the World Cup, all the preseasons starting early etc, it’s not about feeling sorry for them, just the ones who know they are already in the plane probably just not overly arsed, and I think it showed in the displays

Well there's no excuse about being tired at the World Cup as it's only 3 n half months into the season

 

[Plum]

They play 2/3 passes and they’re in our final third we play 20 and the centre halves still have it FFS. Southgate has been recognised by the Queen for this

Shoes how much the Queen knows about football. Which reminds me of the old Tommy Cooper story, meeting the Queen at a royal variety show, 'do you enjoy football ma'am?', 'actually, no not really', 'in that case can I have your cup final tickets?'

 

[petersaxton]

Yeah, almost like it was his first time in the squad and he needed to impress , nobody said anything about feeling sorry for them ffs …

If a player thinks he doesnt need to impress then a good manager will drop him
You dont see Kane coasting

 

[Kalman]

Yeah, almost like it was his first time in the squad and he needed to impress , nobody said anything about feeling sorry for them ffs …

Any time a player puts on their country’s shirt should be a time to impress. The lack of desire to win at home in front of England fans by the players is down to the manager being a wet flannel. Tonight isn’t a one-off. They’ve been gash in the last four games.

 

[Edelman]

People give Southgate credit for getting England to a final but the manner in which we bottled it overrides that imo. We scored early then only had one more shot on target for the rest of the 120 minutes after that. That’s down to Southgate’s coaching.

To have two shots on target against Italy with the attacking talent this England squad had is criminal.

Any time a player puts on their country’s shirt should be a time to impress. The lack of desire to win at home in front of England fans by the players is down to the manager being a wet flannel. Tonight isn’t a one-off. They’ve been gash in the last four games.

Also you can't go on blaming the manager .
That's been happening for 5 Decades now

 

[Phinius T Bookbinder]

People give Southgate credit for getting England to a final but the manner in which we bottled it overrides that imo. We scored early then only had one more shot on target for the rest of the 120 minutes after that. That’s down to Southgate’s coaching.

To have two shots on target against Italy with the attacking talent this England squad had is criminal.

Spot on 100 percent. Said it at the time.

 

[Idi Amin]

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[Tony Angelino]

The thing about England is not to expect anything, when they let us down we can’t be disappointed. 3-0 and he brought maguire on!
I can hear it now “it’s been a long season, with no summer break and then the pl season started early”. The excuse that will be reeled out when we do **** in the World Cup