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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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The missus is considerably more liberal than me and my regular argument is that too many people under about 25 just never grew up in an environment where if you were a prick you’d get a slap eventually and that actually corporal punishment of some sort isn’t a bad thing. If kids knew they’d get the cain they’d fall into line. Similarly imagine how much prison space we’d open up if we replaced short sentences with some sort of beating.

Cane

Why does every thing have to be turned into a Jewish conspiracy with you ? :bandit:
 
Possibly, but the billionaire oligarchs who are stuffing 5 million quid wads down his trousers, are doing that because they want him to be Prime Minister. Britain still has a few national assets waiting to be flogged off for someone’s personal profit, and the vultures are circling.

A journalist recently described Reforms leaders as millionaires working for billionaires; which makes you despair for the skint masses voting for them, but the point is that the billionaires expect to see a return on their investment.

Indeed

quid pro quo
 
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I appreciate this might seem mental but maybe they could actually go outside? Radical I know.

I've mixed views on this but one big plus side is it'll make me look less of a **** parent as I had no intention of letting my nipper use it anyway.
It's not mental, it's called being a good responsible parent, which you are.
 
Made me laugh this morning where BBC quoted some nipper saying something like "we're sick of being told what we can or can't do".

Sums up a big problem in society these days imo. How about your a 14 year old child so you'll do as you're told you entitled little ****?

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I actually think kids in general are patronised and condescended to by adults.

You're young, therefore you don't have any rights and you'll do what I tell you, regardless.

I get that kids need direction and guidance and they have to learn the rules. But I think they are basically treated like second class citizens.

They'll see this as just another move by a bunch of out of touch adults who don't understand their world.

#powertothekids
 
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I actually think kids in general are patronised and condescended to by adults.

You're young, therefore you don't have any rights and you'll do what I tell you, regardless.

I get that kids need direction and guidance and they have to learn the rules. But I think they are basically treated like second class citizens.

They'll see this as just another move by a bunch of out of touch adults who don't understand their world.

#powertothekids
I don't think that's the case at all.
 
**** all to do with protecting kids

Just a pre cursor for “adult online safety” which will be not showing you what they don’t want you to see
I genuinely did think that, adults next and how much time you are allowed, monitored by Big Brother. It's clear where this is going, they don't like the fact that people challenge those who make decisions, yeah there is a lot of crack pots out there, but again it's that's totalitarian path.
 
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Right, but you're looking for something else from your elected leaders. You probably want to be impressed and wowed by them.

The average voter really couldn't give a damn about that and probably doesn't listen to the speeches anyway.

Maybe superb communicator is wrong.

But he is a very effective and efficient communicator.

Trump was very well-suited to old school Twatter
(the msg size constraints focused him) .

Look at his "Truth social" stuff nowadays,
and you see a lot of Lefty-esque "block text" .
 
I don't think that's the case at all.

I just think the adult world is out of touch with the experience of being a kid

I get it, kids need adult guidance, you can't just let them have free reign and make their own rules.

But this case of banning them from social media is another case of adults thinking they know best, without really considering how it affects kids, their peer groups, and the world that they live in.

As I've said, Imo its passing the buck and taking something away from kids, when it should be the social media companies who are made to monitor and take down harmful content.
 
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I actually think kids in general are patronised and condescended to by adults.

You're young, therefore you don't have any rights and you'll do what I tell you, regardless.

I get that kids need direction and guidance and they have to learn the rules. But I think they are basically treated like second class citizens.

They'll see this as just another move by a bunch of out of touch adults who don't understand their world.

#powertothekids

Well perhaps a bit harsh but they kind of are second class citizens until they reach a point where they can contribute to society?

I don't think it's condescending to say they should do as their told, it's simply how it is. I brought you into this world, provide for you, and am responsible for keeping you safe and helping you develop into productive adult.

Therefore you will provide the respect that deserves and ****ing get on with it.
 
It's a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

Of course everybody wants to make sure Children are protected online

They need to make the social media platforms take down harmful content and misinformation, and have actual moderators like they used to before Trump demanded that they binned it because all of his content was getting flagged as nonsense lol

My concern is that a lot of kids use these platforms to communicate with their friends, for some of them, it's a vital channel for them to stay engaged and not become isolated

Taking it away from kids because the social media companies can't moderate their content is collective punishment for the kids

It's like Gaza all over again :bandit:
Thing is you post as much as anyone articles or memes from other sources, normally far-left sources, generally not linked, because you've probably dragged them out of Facebook. So should we ban your content as well, also you posted up a picture of a baby killer and said wid ye, is that not disgusting content, especially if the families that suffered at the hands of her saw it. I know you like to paint it as banter, but personally I think you are a bit of a perv.
 
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Well perhaps a bit harsh but they kind of are second class citizens until they reach a point where they can contribute to society?

I don't think it's condescending to say they should do as their told, it's simply how it is. I brought you into this world, provide for you, and am responsible for keeping you safe and helping you develop into productive adult.

Therefore you will provide the respect that deserves and ****ing get on with it.

Yeah I get that.

I don't think they are second class citizens though lol.

Maybe it depends on the adult and the kid. I've always tried to communicate with my daughter and explain to her why things are they way they are. She doesn't always like it, but at least she understands why

I just think a lot of adults use their authority over kids in that, you will do as your told because I told you so, kind of way

Which doesn't really breed respect imo, the opposite in fact. And it just makes kids find ways to hide things from their parents.
 
Thing is you post as much as anyone articles or memes from other sources, normally far-left sources, generally not linked, because you've probably dragged them out of Facebook. So should we ban your content as well, also you posted up a picture of a baby killer and said wid ye, is that not disgusting content, especially if the families that suffered at the hands of her saw it. I know you like to paint it as banter, but personally I think you are a bit of a perv.

****in hell <laugh>
 
Thing is you post as much as anyone articles or memes from other sources, normally far-left sources, generally not linked, because you've probably dragged them out of Facebook. So should we ban your content as well, also you posted up a picture of a baby killer and said wid ye, is that not disgusting content, especially if the families that suffered at the hands of her saw it. I know you like to paint it as banter, but personally I think you are a bit of a perv.
and here lays the problem with social media, one persons bantz is another persons disgusting content, so who gets to decide what is acceptable and what's not.
 
**** all to do with protecting kids

Just a pre cursor for “adult online safety” which will be not showing you what they don’t want you to see
can't happen as
a) The US Govt would go mental
b) VPN's exist

make more sense to get the Social Media companies to remove the deliberately addictive algorithms. Mind you i'm always a bit worried that the authorities think Social Media consists of a few companies
oh and that Roblox is fine
 
Yeah I get that.

I don't think they are second class citizens though lol.

Maybe it depends on the adult and the kid. I've always tried to communicate with my daughter and explain to her why things are they way they are. She doesn't always like it, but at least she understands why

I just think a lot of adults use their authority over kids in that, you will do as your told because I told you so, kind of way

Which doesn't really breed respect imo, the opposite in fact. And it just makes kids find ways to hide things from their parents.

Like I said it sounds harsh but they objectively are though. Can't vote, can't pay tax, can't have sex, can't drink alcohol and so on.

I think you need a balance of the two personally, or at least that's what I try to do.

I always try and explain the logic behind my decisions he doesn't like but if he wants to act silly bugger I'll happily revert to the authority and there's always a time and place for that.

People who use no authority at all often end up with relationships like friends rather than parent-child imo and I think that becomes very unhealthy in mid to late adolescence.
 
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can't happen as
a) The US Govt would go mental
b) VPN's exist

make more sense to get the Social Media companies to remove the deliberately addictive algorithms. Mind you i'm always a bit worried that the authorities think Social Media consists of a few companies
oh and that Roblox is fine

Part of the problem with social media is that the content that gets promoted the most, is often the most deliberately controversial or conspiratorial, because it gets the most clicks and therefore the algorithms promote it

Content creators know this, and the more engagement they get, the bigger slice of advertising revenue they get. So they will deliberately post more and more controversial stuff in order to get bigger engagement.

Now me, I argue with Chemtrail, flat earth, space is fake type of people, so my feed is now full of this **** <laugh>