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I’d very much like the Iranian leadership to die. If that unfortunately means some innocent and not so innocent people dying to long term protect more innocent people I care about more then it’s an obvious call. Appreciate the likes of you trying to lecture anyone.

I’m not lecturing anyone. I just don’t like seeing innocent people die because I don’t like a countries leader. I don’t like Starmer yet imagine I said I didn’t care if innocent British people died if it meant he was removed

Appreciate you showing your true colours though. “Protect more innocent people I care about more”
 
I’m not lecturing anyone. I just don’t like seeing innocent people die because I don’t like a countries leader. I don’t like Starmer yet imagine I said I didn’t care if innocent British people died if it meant he was removed

Appreciate you showing your true colours though. “Protect more innocent people I care about more”
Do you think many British people in the 40’s were weeping for the innocent Germans killed at Dresden?
 
I’m not lecturing anyone. I just don’t like seeing innocent people die because I don’t like a countries leader. I don’t like Starmer yet imagine I said I didn’t care if innocent British people died if it meant he was removed

Appreciate you showing your true colours though.

Not really comparable unless Starmer is dedicated to wiping out an entire race.

I’m not going to feel bad if the Iranian regime and the threat they pose to Israel is wiped out with some collateral damage which would inevitably be minimal in comparison to what Khameini would dish out the other way given the chance. There’d be plenty of glee if he did from the people who would very openly celebrate and the people who wouldn’t be quite that brazen but would love it and excuse it.

Not that any of this is actually going to happen.
 
So glad I've never had to experience war in my lifetime, from what i've seen of it it looks awful.

Seeing people's kids dragged off the street to go and fight, especially when you know most of them will not be coming home again, just sent to die. Then you see the ones left at home, kids, mums, grandmothers, sitting in the darkness with no heat to keep warm in the middle of winter, but I suppose shelter was more than what some have in war in the rubble. Not knowing when your next meal or drink is coming, everything in life suddenly only about survival.

I still remember that 16 year old kid left on a footbridge in Ukraine, because he had to go and fight, brave face but scared about what was coming, but it was obvious the real men had given him the easiest task, and the likelyhood he might not see any Russians, but they made him feel like he was doing his bit, which he was - no guarantees, but through some decent men he might eventually get home to see his mum again - hope he did.
 
So glad I've never had to experience war in my lifetime, from what i've seen of it it looks awful.

Seeing people's kids dragged off the street to go and fight, especially when you know most of them will not be coming home again, just sent to die. Then you see the ones left at home, kids, mums, grandmothers, sitting in the darkness with no heat to keep warm in the middle of winter, but I suppose shelter was more than what some have in war in the rubble. Not knowing when your next meal or drink is coming, everything in life suddenly only about survival.

I still remember that 16 year old kid left on a footbridge in Ukraine, because he had to go and fight, brave face but scared about what was coming, but it was obvious the real men had given him the easiest task, and the likelyhood he might not see any Russians, but they made him feel like he was doing his bit, which he was - no guarantees, but through some decent men he might eventually get home to see his mum again - hope he did.

Exactly.

It’s why I’m anti war. The innocent suffer while the evil make money and gain power from it.

Unfortunately too many still are blood thirsty as they’ve been conned into thinking war is necessary for their survival.
 
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Exactly.

It’s why I’m anti war. The innocent suffer while the evil make money and gain power from it.

Unfortunately too many still are blood thirsty as they’ve been conned into thinking war is necessary for their survival.
Suppose I'm in the advantageous position of war not be neccessary for my survival. I'm an aging British White Christian and no one bothers me, no one insults me or wants to exterminate me in my day to day life, well not to my knowledge anyway lol. I'm just fortunate to live in a perfect bubble, where my only threat would most likely come from some white feral kid whose parents don't know what they are up to or don't care.

I've never had another religion attack me, I've never had a national from another country attack me, I've never had a migrant / refugee ever bother me. That dosen't make me blind though to events in the world and protests on the streets. I have views, ones that I'm generally most open about, but at the same time I would not be looking to antagonise someone, as I like to say it's not my beef.

That don't mean to say I don't care though, I just know I can't do anything to solve the world problems, and I don't have an ounce of idea or energy to do so. Life for some people and some parts are the world are too deep, too far gone for me to ever having the chance of suggesting how to resolve them. I chose to be careful with my words instead. I try to look at everything from everyones perspective and trust me, that can be a hard thing to do sometimes.

From my perspective, I would be very annoyed, likely pissed off if we got dragged into a war, I wouldn't be able to forgive Starmer if that happened, there's a certain amount of pride in reaching the age I have, so I don't see why I should deny other people that chance by getting involved.

I prefer us to be a neutral country, that's not likely to happen because sadly it's embedded in our history before I was even born, but jeez did we **** up the Middle East and sometimes I think when people attack citizens, much like you say it's the leaders to blame, they always seem to get a free get of jail card, by that I mean all leaders that drag us into this ****.

Me personally if I did see someone insulting a Jew, Muslim, Hindu I'd want to seperate them and advise this is not the way we do things and calm the **** down. Then hibernate back into my little bubble. Don't know why I wrote all this ****, suppose it's just my way of saying my perfect bubble dosen't fit the reality of the world as it does not directly impact me...like it possibly does others.
 
Do you think many British people in the 40’s were weeping for the innocent Germans killed at Dresden?


Not at the time. But the firebombing of Dresden was an atrocity by any standards. So were Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but they at least hastened the end of the war.
 
Suppose I'm in the advantageous position of war not be neccessary for my survival. I'm an aging British White Christian and no one bothers me, no one insults me or wants to exterminate me in my day to day life, well not to my knowledge anyway lol. I'm just fortunate to live in a perfect bubble, where my only threat would most likely come from some white feral kid whose parents don't know what they are up to or don't care.

I've never had another religion attack me, I've never had a national from another country attack me, I've never had a migrant / refugee ever bother me. That dosen't make me blind though to events in the world and protests on the streets. I have views, ones that I'm generally most open about, but at the same time I would not be looking to antagonise someone, as I like to say it's not my beef.

That don't mean to say I don't care though, I just know I can't do anything to solve the world problems, and I don't have an ounce of idea or energy to do so. Life for some people and some parts are the world are too deep, too far gone for me to ever having the chance of suggesting how to resolve them. I chose to be careful with my words instead. I try to look at everything from everyones perspective and trust me, that can be a hard thing to do sometimes.

From my perspective, I would be very annoyed, likely pissed off if we got dragged into a war, I wouldn't be able to forgive Starmer if that happened, there's a certain amount of pride in reaching the age I have, so I don't see why I should deny other people that chance by getting involved.

I prefer us to be a neutral country, that's not likely to happen because sadly it's embedded in our history before I was even born, but jeez did we **** up the Middle East and sometimes I think when people attack citizens, much like you say it's the leaders to blame, they always seem to get a free get of jail card, by that I mean all leaders that drag us into this ****.

Me personally if I did see someone insulting a Jew, Muslim, Hindu I'd want to seperate them and advise this is not the way we do things and calm the **** down. Then hibernate back into my little bubble. Don't know why I wrote all this ****, suppose it's just my way of saying my perfect bubble dosen't fit the reality of the world as it does not directly impact me...like it possibly does others.
You’ve summed up my position perfectly. The only thing I would add is that I don’t think enough attention is given to our own feral kids behaviours. If the boats and immigration in general stopped tomorrow, this country still has a major problem with its own.
 
I've come to the conclusion that assassins don't have brains and are as thick as mince, no wonder there are so many lunatic leaders in the world.

A 21 year old guy goes to Mar-a-Lago proceeds to break in with a shotgun and can of fuel, gets himself shot and killed by security, while Trump and his Mrs are in Washington.

At least the previous guy got his ear before being killed, dumb ****s. Do your homework pricks, well not now of course cause your dead.
 
I've come to the conclusion that assassins don't have brains and are as thick as mince, no wonder there are so many lunatic leaders in the world.

A 21 year old guy goes to Mar-a-Lago proceeds to break in with a shotgun and can of fuel, gets himself shot and killed by security, while Trump and his Mrs are in Washington.

At least the previous guy got his ear before being killed, dumb ****s. Do your homework pricks, well not now of course cause your dead.


Makes you wonder how Lee Harvey Oswald did such a slick job on JFK
 
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EU spokesperson on trade just set himself up by denouncing tariffs saying they should all be free, so the presenter comes back and says, so if you don't agree with tariffs and think all trade should be free of them, why does the EU impose tariffs - the question completely threw the guy, few awkward moments of silence, then he could only follow it up with a load of bluster, ah yeah but calibration - presenter oh interesting. <laugh>
 
EU spokesperson on trade just set himself up by denouncing tariffs saying they should all be free, so the presenter comes back and says, so if you don't agree with tariffs and think all trade should be free of them, why does the EU impose tariffs - the question completely threw the guy, few awkward moments of silence, then he could only follow it up with a load of bluster, ah yeah but calibration - presenter oh interesting. <laugh>

Find politicians increasingly painful on anything to do with Economics. The pros and cons of tariffs as a theory are taught about three weeks into an Economics A Level which is about the level most massive economic decisions are somehow based on. Global free trade is a fantasy that can never happen nor should it.
 
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Mandelson led away from his home by a man and woman wearing body cams, so probably cops.
 
MET police just confirmed, arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office. Although not directly named.
 
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Suppose I'm in the advantageous position of war not be neccessary for my survival. I'm an aging British White Christian and no one bothers me, no one insults me or wants to exterminate me in my day to day life, well not to my knowledge anyway lol. I'm just fortunate to live in a perfect bubble, where my only threat would most likely come from some white feral kid whose parents don't know what they are up to or don't care.

I've never had another religion attack me, I've never had a national from another country attack me, I've never had a migrant / refugee ever bother me. That dosen't make me blind though to events in the world and protests on the streets. I have views, ones that I'm generally most open about, but at the same time I would not be looking to antagonise someone, as I like to say it's not my beef.

That don't mean to say I don't care though, I just know I can't do anything to solve the world problems, and I don't have an ounce of idea or energy to do so. Life for some people and some parts are the world are too deep, too far gone for me to ever having the chance of suggesting how to resolve them. I chose to be careful with my words instead. I try to look at everything from everyones perspective and trust me, that can be a hard thing to do sometimes.

From my perspective, I would be very annoyed, likely pissed off if we got dragged into a war, I wouldn't be able to forgive Starmer if that happened, there's a certain amount of pride in reaching the age I have, so I don't see why I should deny other people that chance by getting involved.

I prefer us to be a neutral country, that's not likely to happen because sadly it's embedded in our history before I was even born, but jeez did we **** up the Middle East and sometimes I think when people attack citizens, much like you say it's the leaders to blame, they always seem to get a free get of jail card, by that I mean all leaders that drag us into this ****.

Me personally if I did see someone insulting a Jew, Muslim, Hindu I'd want to seperate them and advise this is not the way we do things and calm the **** down. Then hibernate back into my little bubble. Don't know why I wrote all this ****, suppose it's just my way of saying my perfect bubble dosen't fit the reality of the world as it does not directly impact me...like it possibly does others.
We didn't **** up the ME, it's always been ****ed up.
 
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Wasn't it doing okay for a few hundred years, when the Ottamans had it?
Considering how many entries are in this
I'm gonna say no.
They've been having wars of annihilation there since before writing, and it's not really changed much in that regard since. They kinda stop killing each other when they get invaded and completely taken over by an empire, but they soon revert back to it as soon as that ends.