Election 2024

[PINKIE]

I think Reform might be decent on housing, no?

They don't believe in this green belt nonsense, nor this climate jargon and will certainly sign off on mass housing projects with limited oversight.

Want a new extension on your house? Few jars down the pub with your local councilor and he'll get that sorted

Down here is like a lot of places, people want new homes, but they don't want them being built on green spaces.

The trouble is down here is that there's not a lot of post industrial wasteland or factories etc that can be redeveloped into housing.

There are some old mining sites, but a lot of them are either protected by world heritage status (being sites of our industrial heritage) or they are so polluted with arsenic, lead and heavy metals that you could never build on them

Reform will face the same problems as every other councillor that's sat on Cornwall Council, trying to balance the need for housing with the environment (they can't just bypass environmental protection laws), providing jobs, local services like schools, hospitals, GP surgeries, transport links, sewage infrastructure and rising water bills etc

 

[pieguts]

It will probs get banned for being Transgender or something

The main issues down here are poor housing/lack of housing, low wages and high water bills and cost of living.

Seeing as we don't have any brown people down here, it's going to be a tough gig for Reform to pin the blame on them for this.

This is the bit I struggle with TBH. When I go into my local town, it’s not immigrants that I fear, it’s the ****ing feral English teenagers who think they’re above the law. I haven’t heard any politician from any party acknowledge we have a bigger problem with our own than immigrants.

 

[brb]

OK the first genuine shock for me tonight is Cornwall.

Reform largest party, Lib Dems second. No majority.

The ENTIRE Tory vote is gone bar 7 seats

Cornwall

Does @PISKIE know this?

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[Welshie]

This is the bit I struggle with TBH. When I go into my local town, it’s not immigrants that I fear, it’s the ****ing feral English teenagers who think they’re above the law. I haven’t heard any politician from any party acknowledge we have a bigger problem with our own than immigrants.

Yeah, youth crime is a persistent and uncontrolled issue, nothing is being done tbh, the laws are too soft and the systems in place aren't supported enough.

It's a problem of parenting though, we have no sense of community or values anymore. In Scandinavia if you live in an apartment complex, it's the residence who all get together once every couple months to clean up, do the gardening around and make sure the local play area is maintained.

In the UK people sit on their fat arses as garbage piles up in a hallway and bitch to the local council about it. If their kids are out being utter ****s, it's up to the plod to fix it.

You see it even with the British cruise ships arriving here, they will all stand around and watch an old woman struggle along "I HAVE to get to MY tour on time, out of MY way." It's an engrained selfishness in the culture. It's a cancer.

 

[PINKIE]

This is the bit I struggle with TBH. When I go into my local town, it’s not immigrants that I fear, it’s the ****ing feral English teenagers who think they’re above the law. I haven’t heard any politician from any party acknowledge we have a bigger problem with our own than immigrants.

That doesn't get addressed because it then puts the spotlight on our own shortcomings as a country. Lack of youth services, crap wages for young people, poor parenting etc, lack of meaningful jobs or job security, social media that pollutes young minds with 'alpha male' nonsense, chasing bullshit materialistic dreams instead of learning how to be a decent member of society etc.

Far easier to blame the brown people and claim that if they weren't here, it wouldn't be happening

Which of course it total bollocks.

Far easier to scapegoat the outsiders and this is what Reform play on.

Mentioned it the other day, but the NHS isn't crumbing because of immigrants. Neither are schools, hospitals, or other public services. That's down to decades of underfunding and tax breaks for the wealthy.

 

[Welshie]

That doesn't get addressed because it then puts the spotlight on our own shortcomings as a country. Lack of youth services, crap wages for young people, poor parenting etc, lack of meaningful jobs or job security, social media that pollutes young minds with 'alpha male' nonsense, chasing bullshit materialistic dreams instead of learning how to be a decent member of society etc.

Far easier to blame the brown people and claim that if they weren't here, it wouldn't be happening

Which of course it total bollocks.

Far easier to scapegoat the outsiders and this is what Reform play on.

Mentioned it the other day, but the NHS isn't crumbing because of immigrants. Neither are schools, hospitals, or other public services. That's down to decades of underfunding and tax breaks for the wealthy.

This is why I can't stand Reform. They directly appeal to the fat useless lazy pricks in especially England and Wales and tell them "no, you're decent and good, it's these others that are a problem"

Listen if you don't like migration, that's what ever the ****. But what I cannot abide is these parties that sit about pretending that British people haven't massively contributed to the nations social decay. When Farage goes to a pub at 2 in the afternoon and bumps into a bunch of these white low income working class people, why does he mention migration and not the fact that these low income workers are wasting their day and money in a pub.

 

[PINKIE]

This is why I can't stand Reform. They directly appeal to the fat useless lazy pricks in especially England and Wales and tell them "no, you're decent and good, it's these others that are a problem"

Listen if you don't like migration, that's what ever the ****. But what I cannot abide is these parties that sit about pretending that British people haven't massively contributed to the nations social decay. When Farage goes to a pub at 2 in the afternoon and bumps into a bunch of these white low income working class people, why does he mention migration and not the fact that these low income workers are wasting their day and money in a pub.

More so than that, the things that Reform actually stand for make them the enemy of the working class.

Massive tax breaks for the wealthy, huge deregulation for business eroding workers rights etc, cuts to benefits, a private healthcare system. It's Trump-lite.

They are a party run by and financed by wealthy bankers, speculators and investment opportunists, but they have seized on the unrest of working class frustrations with the main political parties and latched onto the fact that working people's lives are getting harder and more expensive and that nobody in power seems to care or do anything for them.

They are chancers, Farage always has been. Like Trump, he'll say whatever he needs to in order to play on the fears of people to win votes.

 

[Welshie]

Farage to Kemi: ‘Please stay’

 

[Saf]

Labour and Tories arguing over who has done worse is embarrassing. They’ve both completely tanked and lost councils in their heartlands.

It’s up to the government now because the message is clear…

… Sort immigration out or you’re out.

 

[Welshie]

Labour and Tories arguing over who has done worse is embarrassing. They’ve both completely tanked and lost councils in their heartlands.

It’s up to the government now because the message is clear…

… Sort immigration out or you’re out.

I was flabbergasted when I read Kemi's thing today like.

"You may be a one term PM"

What in the name of all that is holy does that make you Kemi?

 

[PINKIE]

This is why I can't stand Reform. They directly appeal to the fat useless lazy pricks

Right fess up time

Who on here voted for them ?

 

[Saf]

I was flabbergasted when I read Kemi's thing today like.

"You may be a one term PM"

What in the name of all that is holy does that make you Kemi?

She’ll not even be the opposition when the next GE comes around. I think they’re going to need to go through a few leaders until they hit lucky with someone or it will probably rely on a breakdown of the Labour government and Farage jumping ship to push them back up again.

 

[Welshie]

Right fess up time

Who on here voted for them ?

Based on the turnouts at these locals, no one on here is a genuine answer

British voter turnouts are pathetic

 

[PINKIE]

She’ll not even be the opposition when the next GE comes around. I think they’re going to need to go through a few leaders until they hit lucky with someone or it will probably rely on a breakdown of the Labour government and Farage jumping ship to push them back up again.

Yeah, the Tories are irrelevant right now.

 

[Saf]

Right fess up time

Who on here voted for them ?

I didn’t even know there was an election

I’d have no problem saying if I did, though. Everyone is entitled to vote how they see fit and demonising or mocking them will only see them further dig their heels in.

 

[PINKIE]

Based on the turnouts at these locals, no one on here is a genuine answer

British voter turnouts are pathetic

Yeah I was shocked at the low numbers in my ward.

The councillor who won a seat on the Council (who I voted for) got in with something like 1800 votes !

Some people I spoke to didn't even know there was an election lol

 

[PINKIE]

I didn’t even know there was an election

I’d have no problem saying if I did, though. Everyone is entitled to vote how they see fit and demonising or mocking them will only see them further dig their heels in.

Yeah agree with that

 

[brb]

Based on the turnouts at these locals, no one on here is a genuine answer

British voter turnouts are pathetic

I'm a postal voter but I don't know why I bother with it, because I don't really like voting like that and then I end up voting for no one. I need to get it changed, but don't know what I have to do...then when I've got it changed, I still will not be arsed.

 

[brb]

I didn’t even know there was an election

I’d have no problem saying if I did, though. Everyone is entitled to vote how they see fit and demonising or mocking them will only see them further dig their heels in.

Exactly this mate, the more people talk about them and mock them, the more chance they will get in, I genuinely believe that is the case of what is happening sometimes.

 

[Welshie]

Exactly this mate, the more people talk about them and mock them, the more chance they will get in, I genuinely believe that is the case of what is happening sometimes.

What's upsetting about that is Labour can genuinely turn it around, they can make changes that would keep them in.

But I am also convinced that they just won't do it.