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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months

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Turbia Milk said:
How I view him too. Hell say anything and take any stance that seems to go with the tide to try and get power and change his views 100% if he thinks changing them will get him power.

Impossible to know what he truly believes in.





From the minimal evidence of his flip flopping to try and get power... It appears Vance will do whatever Trump wants to get power. If a repeat of 2020 happens, Vance from what little evidence I can see of him, seems like the kind with no principles and will gladly break the law to stay in power. Hopefully I'm wrong and he does have principles.


If Trump does end democracy (not saying he will... Saying if), Vance might be the more important person. Trump could drop dead any time, he's old and morbidly obese and eats fast food and diet sodas all the time .. a heart attack is just around the corner. There might only be a few years of Trump, but Vance is young and could potentially be running the country for decades.
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Some very disturbing videos of Vance are appearing, which should concern all Americans. His comments on women and reproductive rights, in particular are extremely controversial and he appears all in for Project 2025, which is a large step to fascism.
 
pieguts said:
Some very disturbing videos of Vance are appearing, which should concern all Americans. His comments on women and reproductive rights, in particular are extremely controversial and he appears all in for Project 2025, which is a large step to fascism.
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Vance just called the UK 'the first Islamist country to have a nuclear weapon'

So he seems like a wholesome inclusive sort of bloke lol

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ance-uk-first-islamist-country-nuclear-weapon
 
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Archers Road said:
Might be something in that; I have noticed that with some of the Hindus I know. Tolerant people until it comes to Muslims.
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I have mentioned it a few times on here and stand by it, the increased amount of religious British Indian MPs has also increased the anti-immigration rhetoric specifically directed at Muslims.

So when I hear JD Vance explicitly mention that the UK is becoming Islamic and that he is married to a Hindu, I am not surprised.

This rhetoric is strong in those circles, that there are too many Moooslims in the UK.
 
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Solid Air 2 said:
pretty much nothing he does bothers his base
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Yeah, all they care about is the tribalism. He says funny mean things to his rivals (their rivals) and is politically incorrect bashing people they dislike too.

Vance once compared Trump to Hitler... and Trump (and Vance himself now) are definitely similar in a few ways- one of those ways is by solidifying their own popularity by sharing hatred of a different group of people. Their politics is based upon the hatred of others... and few things bind people together more than the common hatred of someone else.
 
Welshie said:
I have mentioned it a few times on here and stand by it, the increased amount of religious British Indian MPs has also increased the anti-immigration rhetoric specifically directed at Muslims.

So when I hear JD Vance explicitly mention that the UK is becoming Islamic and that he is married to a Hindu, I am not surprised.

This rhetoric is strong in those circles, that there are too many Moooslims in the UK.
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While I agree with what you say, a lot of this rhetoric has been around regarding America for a long while, all Vance has done is bring the rhetoric to the forefront again. I did a quick google check on news items, it's littered with examples of racism, mostly aimed at British Muslims that was encountered when trying to travel to the US, going way back (even inc the UK)...

2015 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35167511

2019 https://socialistworker.co.uk/background-check/muslims-suffer-at-the-hands-of-the-terrorism-act/

2022 https://metro.co.uk/2022/04/03/i-st...take-the-racism-at-airport-security-16316315/
 
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Trump's expected voter share is dropping and the latest polls show Biden beating Trump. Assassination attempt on Trump hasn't had the effect of being a boost to Trump like some had thought.

Its too early to write off Biden...
 
Mylk said:
Trump's expected voter share is dropping and the latest polls show Biden beating Trump. Assassination attempt on Trump hasn't had the effect of being a boost to Trump like some had thought.

Its too early to write off Biden...
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Is this another of your pellet predictions lol... Latest news is Biden has mild covid symptoms, and at his age he probably has more chance of dropping dead than getting re-elected. <laugh>
 
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brb said:
Is this another of your pellet predictions lol... Latest news is Biden has mild covid symptoms, and at his age he probably has more chance of dropping dead than getting re-elected. <laugh>
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Not predicting anything. Quite the opposite, it's not predictable, Ive no idea who will win... Just looking less certain Trump than a week ago. Five Thirty Eights poll aggregate has Biden slightly ahead now. But months to go so will probably change a dozen times still.
 
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Mylk said:
Not predicting anything. Quite the opposite, it's not predictable, Ive no idea who will win... Just looking less certain Trump than a week ago. Five Thirty Eights poll aggregate has Biden slightly ahead now. But months to go so will probably change a dozen times still.
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Will either of them last months? Odds can’t be great tbh.
 
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