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Which is exactly why I haven't a fcking clue who to vote for.

I wouldn't put Mick Lynch in any of that bracket though.

Ppl say he should be PM. Personally I'd love that. Bringing some integrity to politics might bring some desperately needed standards to the country as a whole which we're lacking. But the truth is, if he ever even attempted it, the system which is set up for mendacity and liars would chew him up and spit him out.

Our press btw has A LOT to answer for in this respect. It's not just the politicians but their enablers.


You might be interested in reading this;

https://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-statement-on-general-election/
 
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Which is exactly why I haven't a fcking clue who to vote for.

I wouldn't put Mick Lynch in any of that bracket though.

Ppl say he should be PM. Personally I'd love that. Bringing some integrity to politics might bring some desperately needed standards to the country as a whole which we're lacking. But the truth is, if he ever even attempted it, the system which is set up for mendacity and liars would chew him up and spit him out.

Our press btw has A LOT to answer for in this respect. It's not just the politicians but their enablers.

I'm not sure that I want to vote. I don't personally have a problem with Starmer not even Rayner, I'd probably mellow over time if
I see the NHS and all the other shhite being fixed and just the satisfaction that our collected tax revenue is not being robbed blind...but do I put in a cross in the box...I might have nightmares, the thought of waking up from a dream where I joined a picket line ffs...Archers standing over me with a clipboard saying the next train is coming in at platform 9 3/4 - before I pick up my broomstick to go and play Quidditch. I'll probably post my vote and Royal Mail will go on strike....bastards.
 
I'm not sure that I want to vote. I don't personally have a problem with Starmer not even Rayner, I'd probably mellow over time if
I see the NHS and all the other shhite being fixed and just the satisfaction that our collected tax revenue is not being robbed blind...but do I put in a cross in the box...I might have nightmares, the thought of waking up from a dream where I joined a picket line ffs...Archers standing over me with a clipboard saying the next train is coming in at platform 9 3/4 - before I pick up my broomstick to go and play Quidditch. I'll probably post my vote and Royal Mail will go on strike....bastards.

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I'm not sure that I want to vote. I don't personally have a problem with Starmer not even Rayner, I'd probably mellow over time if
I see the NHS and all the other shhite being fixed and just the satisfaction that our collected tax revenue is not being robbed blind...but do I put in a cross in the box...I might have nightmares, the thought of waking up from a dream where I joined a picket line ffs...Archers standing over me with a clipboard saying the next train is coming in at platform 9 3/4 - before I pick up my broomstick to go and play Quidditch. I'll probably post my vote and Royal Mail will go on strike....bastards.

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Farage says it's our fault that Putin goes to war against Ukraine.

@Saf you still fully behind farage who will be besties with Putin? :emoticon-0138-think
 
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It was a bit more nuanced than that I think

More like, they were poked a bit, but ultimately it's no excuse to wage a war.
Farage actually said the war was Putin’s fault.


Nigel Farage has said the West "provoked" Russia's invasion of Ukraine by expanding the European Union and Nato military alliance eastwards.

The Reform UK leader told the BBC that "of course" the war was President Vladimir Putin's fault.

But he added that the expansion of the EU and Nato gave him a "reason" to tell the Russian people "they're coming for us again".
 
Are you sure about that, Bobby?

Just cause he said ultimately its putins hes pretty much said we provoked him.

Basically we are the bully at school he kept picking on the little kid til he fought back and got in the most trouble with the teacher. Thats what i got from him
 
So who does make the rules, who decided what's right and wrong - why is it not OK for Farage to say what he has. Maybe different words but it's what I've been saying for a long time.

NATO and the EU have been advancing there pace across Europe for decades now, the next Román Empire.

What if people don't want to live under this ideology of bombs of peace and us deciding who owns what land in this world or causing actions to the detriment of the populations within them.

It's all well and good letting young Ukrainian men die on the front line, while we cosy up for the news of it on our sofas, but we've not truly helped anyone for a longtime, we've just brought people misery for our own ideology.

Yeah yeah Putin is a fooking lunatic but Farages point is right, albeit he has a different agenda for saying it from mine.

We should have kept our noses out but too late now, we are stuck in this meat grinder with no way out.. Fooking madmen the lot of them.
 
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Farage can say whatever he wants, and it won’t bother the mugs and screwballs who are taken in by him one bit.

Reform, rather like the Maga Republicans, isn’t a political party, it’s a cult. Cult leaders have a magnetic power over the weak minded, causing their followers to adore him even more, when the rest of the world condemns him.
 
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So who does make the rules, who decided what's right and wrong - why is it not OK for Farage to say what he has. Maybe different words but it's what I've been saying for a long time.

NATO and the EU have been advancing there pace across Europe for decades now, the next Román Empire.

What if people don't want to live under this ideology of bombs of peace and us deciding who owns what land in this world or causing actions to the detriment of the populations within them.

It's all well and good letting young Ukrainian men die on the front line, while we cosy up for the news of it on our sofas, but we've not truly helped anyone for a longtime, we've just brought people misery for our own ideology.

Yeah yeah Putin is a fooking lunatic but Farages point is right, albeit he has a different agenda for saying it from mine.

We should have kept our noses out but too late now, we are stuck in this meat grinder with no way out.. Fooking madmen the lot of them.

I think it's so much more nuanced that British media and politicians are letting on.

There's been political divisions brewing between Ukraine and Russia for about 25 years, it's just a deep cultural division brewing, especially since Ukraine is so heavily influenced by Poland as opposed to Russia.

Ukraine is such a large place that for most of the population Russia is ****ing miles away.

I think Putin in truth panicked, I think in their minds Xi Jingping and Jong Un probably consider Putins decision to invade as idiotic.
 
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I think it's so much more nuanced that British media and politicians are letting on.

There's been political divisions brewing between Ukraine and Russia for about 25 years, it's just a deep cultural division brewing, especially since Ukraine is so heavily influenced by Poland as opposed to Russia.

Ukraine is such a large place that for most of the population Russia is ****ing miles away.

I think Putin in truth panicked, I think in their minds Xi Jingping and Jong Un probably consider Putins decision to invade as idiotic.

I'm not understanding the bit 'I think Putin in truth panicked' can you explain about what?
 
Anyway these are a few comments that I said just under two years ago, long before Farage even uttered any words on it, or certainly any words that I knew of...

I agree, but mainly because I don't blame the Russians for what has happened. Putin is the sole instigator, in his mind he got poked constantly with a big stick, for what he saw as the expansion of the EU and NATO and he reacted to it, in the only way anyone will listen to him. Also us feeding the Ukrainians arms, just makes me feel as if it's a proxy war on behalf of the Americans, because it's what they do under the administration of Biden/Pelosi and Co, next stop China (Taiwan) as the occupation in Afghanistan has been terminated. And us (UK) to somehow show how independent we are from the rest of Europe. Sadly everyone has an ulterior motive and we are all going to suffer financially because of it.

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I hear and completely understand what you say, but I can't be doing with this living under threats, how long for 1 year, 5 years, a decade, someone needs to take him out. Bullet to the head will do it.

I said from the beginning I agree with what he says, I hate the EU, not European countries, I've not got much time for NATO either, and the Americans can suck my cock, everyone of them organisations are in it for themselves, their own agendas, and I'd prefer to subscribe to none of them.

They've poked the bear with a stick and now he's biting, BUT...sometimes you need putting back in your box, so Putin either needs to front up or sit down and shut the fook up - I'd prefer the latter, but I think the only way this ends is by him dying.

Can't the Chinese give him a little slap or something.

So Rishi can go fook himself, sometimes the truth hurts. I'd be happy if someone put a bullet in Putin, because he overstepped the mark, so this is not supporting him, it's merely saying we have a lot to answer for ourselves, as I said yesterday, every politician is a liar and I suspect Zelenskky even has a few skeletons in his closet.
 
I'm not understanding the bit 'I think Putin in truth panicked' can you explain about what?

When the Maidan revolution took place, Putins puppet President in Ukraine was removed from office and forced out of the country. He panicked as he saw the grip over Ukraine slipping and panicked to retake Crimea.

When Ukraine looked to be interested in joining NATO I think he panicked again and sent in the army unprepared.

Strategically the invasion has been a logistical disaster and so many young Russians have perished. It's been a terrible event.
 
When the Maidan revolution took place, Putins puppet President in Ukraine was removed from office and forced out of the country. He panicked as he saw the grip over Ukraine slipping and panicked to retake Crimea.

When Ukraine looked to be interested in joining NATO I think he panicked again and sent in the army unprepared.

Strategically the invasion has been a logistical disaster and so many young Russians have perished. It's been a terrible event.

Just seen this on GC, I wasn't aware that Farage HAD made these comments before...

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