3 weeks is a long timeJudging by their progress so far they will end up deporting al; the pensioners that believed their lies and voted for them
3 weeks is a long timeJudging by their progress so far they will end up deporting al; the pensioners that believed their lies and voted for them
Duggies minted
its fosse i fear for
guys 88 and still working

****ing crumblies always whinging .You must log in or register to see images
****ing crumblies always whinging .
yeah if you get certain benefits ( i know the main one is Pensions credit ) you still get it .People need to get rid of the idea Pensioners as a group are poor as actually they just aren't anymore and in comparison to workers have been doing very well in the last 15 yearsI haven’t really looked into the winter payments thing, but I presume that if you’re on benefits or pension credit etc then you’d still get it ?
My old dear is comfortably off, she doesn’t need winter fuel allowance. She bought a house (with my old man when he was alive) with solar panels and at the time when the FIT was still active. So not only does she get regular payments from supplying the grid with power, she also gets WFA
When I ask her what she’s gonna do with the money she gets from the Govt and from FIT, she’s like ‘oh I don’t know, just stick it in the bank I suppose’
There’s vast swathes of comfortably off pensioners in this country that get a ****ing good deal from the Govt. many of them have got company pensions on top of a state pension, triple lock, free prescriptions, eye tests, optical vouchers etc. They bought their houses on a single wage at a time when prices were rock bottom.
As long as those who really need it are protected, I see no problem from removing some free cash for the elderly
I haven’t really looked into the winter payments thing, but I presume that if you’re on benefits or pension credit etc then you’d still get it ?
My old dear is comfortably off, she doesn’t need winter fuel allowance. She bought a house (with my old man when he was alive) with solar panels and at the time when the FIT was still active. So not only does she get regular payments from supplying the grid with power, she also gets WFA
When I ask her what she’s gonna do with the money she gets from the Govt and from FIT, she’s like ‘oh I don’t know, just stick it in the bank I suppose’
There’s vast swathes of comfortably off pensioners in this country that get a ****ing good deal from the Govt. many of them have got company pensions on top of a state pension, triple lock, free prescriptions, eye tests, optical vouchers etc. They bought their houses on a single wage at a time when prices were rock bottom.
As long as those who really need it are protected, I see no problem from removing some free cash for the elderly
While I don't disagree with any of that, it's the same old government policies of whoever is in power. And you accept it or dislike it, depending if it's a power you support. I'm pretty certain if the Tories had done this, you of all people would have been ranting about it.
The Tories chose to pick on those on benefits, Labour choose to pick on pensioners, and regardless of the rights and wrongs, I'm still waiting to see policies that are going to affect the rich - governments always go for those further down the ladder first, how about they start at the top for a change.
Much like his speech on tv yesterday, again I fully support him, but I still think he missed the opportunity to cover some vital points that are concerning voters, that of knife crime, ok he's going to allow stop and search, great it's a start but it;s no where near enough and hiding behind right wing thugs rhetoric will not make the problem go away.
I think Starmer is doing the right things, but sometimes I feel he's not quite grasped it, but it's early days and I will give him a chance, it's better than what we had a bunch of thieves, but please stop robbing pensioners and focus your target elsewhere, afterall what about self employed people who fiddle their taxes or maybe even pay none...

Both benefits, but I agree I'd like to see Labour closing the tax loopholes for the rich.
Have they targeted the rich on anything yet?
There's a few things in their manifesto. The £5.2bn from ending non dom status and £1.5bn from ending tax breaks for private school. I think there was another £500m odd from ending another interest loophole that private equity chiefs use.
Doubt any of this has had an effect yet. But it's something that would raise significant capital for the exchequer.
Gotta find some money for that £20bn hole the Tories left behind![]()
@Big Ern mentioned the other day all these properties sitting empty, forget the number it was huge, what's Starmer doing about that?
Saka earns £15M a year at Rwanda sponsoring Arsenal....can't we tax him more, most people won't see that sort of money in a lifetime, let alone a year. All because he can kick a ball and dive.

Yeah empty properties are a big problem. Probs shouldn’t have allowed the Ruskies to launder so much money through London when Osborne and his coked up mates were in charge.
Not sure what you do about that now ? Compulsory purchase ? It would cost a ****in bomb to buy them all back.

Thing is regardless of problems the Tories caused, Starmer can't just go after the easy targets, the money is in the big targets, especially with property, otherwise it's talk big but do fook all about it when you are in power. Solutions I want, not the problems.
The Tories brought in austerity after the global financial crisis and they were nasty murderers who pretty much forced people into suicide.
Labour have come into a market that has not only recently stabilised and is showing positive signs and they’ve attacked pensioners, benefits and the working class man and woman. The response? It needs done and pensioners get enough anyway.
If they only want one term in government they’re going the right way about it.