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Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
I'm not sure how much clearer that part of the question can be from how I originally asked it.

, what does the koran say man was made from?

Does it say he was made of blood (96:2)

or clay as in (15:26)

or nothing as in. (52:35)

or sperm as in (16:4)

I guess I should have phrased the question as, which one is right, which I guess begs the follow up, why mention the others?

I wasn't really tyring to limit it to specific contradictions, they exist. I was more interested to see if you agreed, and if so could explain why they exist.
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Answer to your question 15:26 is below and i see no contradictions here as first man Adam (as) was made from clay.

Throughout the Quran, the soil used to create Adam is referred to by many names, and from this we are able to understand some of the methodology of his creation. Each name for soil is used at a different stage of Adam’s creation. Soil, taken from the earth, is referred to as soil; God also refers to it as clay. When it is mixed with water it becomes mud, when it is left to stand the water content reduces and it becomes sticky clay (or mud). If it is again left for some time it begins to smell, and the colour becomes darker – black, smooth clay. It was from this substance that God moulded the form of Adam. His soulless body was left to dry, and it became what is known in the Quran as sounding clay. Adam was moulded from something akin to potter’s clay. When it is rapped it produces a ringing sound.

To back it up here is the verse talking about Adam (as).

And (remember) when your Lord said to the angels: ‘I am going to create a human (Adam) from sounding clay of altered black smooth mud. So when I have fashioned him and breathed into him (his) soul created by Me, then you fall down prostrate to him.” (Quran 38:71-72)
 
highburyal said:
Answer to your question 15:26 is below and i see no contradictions here as first man Adam (as) was made from clay.

Throughout the Quran, the soil used to create Adam is referred to by many names, and from this we are able to understand some of the methodology of his creation. Each name for soil is used at a different stage of Adam’s creation. Soil, taken from the earth, is referred to as soil; God also refers to it as clay. When it is mixed with water it becomes mud, when it is left to stand the water content reduces and it becomes sticky clay (or mud). If it is again left for some time it begins to smell, and the colour becomes darker – black, smooth clay. It was from this substance that God moulded the form of Adam. His soulless body was left to dry, and it became what is known in the Quran as sounding clay. Adam was moulded from something akin to potter’s clay. When it is rapped it produces a ringing sound.

To back it up here is the verse talking about Adam (as).

And (remember) when your Lord said to the angels: ‘I am going to create a human (Adam) from sounding clay of altered black smooth mud. So when I have fashioned him and breathed into him (his) soul created by Me, then you fall down prostrate to him.” (Quran 38:71-72)
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Thanks for taking the time to reply to the points. It's interesting, and shows how things taken out of context (as I had done) can give a false impression. <ok>
 
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Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply to the points. It's interesting, and shows how things taken out of context (as I had done) can give a false impression. <ok>
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That's fine, I am happy answer question about my faith and belief to people and I don't shy away from questions. The problem becomes when people don't want to listen but rather just have a slanging match, don't see much use of that for either side.
 
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Treble said:
Fair enough Hull but referencing lizards and flying saucers or whatever (I forget) doesnt help. Cynicism is all good btw. But you're very likely to get people's back up if you insinuate they're stupid or crazy even if that wasnt the intention. To then say you're simply asking the question and don't understand why the other side is getting upset, isnt exactly right.


If a religion won't accept any questioning then it's weak and full of **** imo.
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Having shown I'd been lazy in an example I gave, and Highbury put me right, I need to look again at some of what I thought, but in a similar, lazily checked claim, my understanding is that the koran talks of shapeshifters when referring to jinns.
 
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