Dzeko

[Brian Storm]

no not by me, I recall a radio 4 programme talking about how much closer the American English, or the north eastern states is to Shakespearean English than the accepted pronunciation used by the BBC.

Had to go out earlier.

We never spoke Shakespearean English though, it was language of his own mind. He made up 1000s upon 1000s upon 1000s of words, most of which never caught on. Apparently there's around 1700 words we did pick up though which have become common words though. And the English Langauge predates Shakespear's by over a thousand years. Maybe the Americans leaned of Shakepere too much?

 

[Commachio]

Sunderland have offered a contract worth €6.5m per year to former Manchester City striker Edin Dzeko, according to Sky Italia.

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2016/06/25/sunderland-propose-lucrative-contract-to-edin-dzeko/292229/

 

[The Relic]

In fact it has been suggested that American English is closer to the language spoken in 18th century England than our current version back here.

I haven't been following this thread and only came across this language section this morning. But I can confirm what Washy said. A few years ago, I had occasion to see the text of a land survey by John Norden on behalf of Prince Charles (King Chares 1 to be) over the period 1619-1621. There are several cases of e.g. "in the Honor of Pickeringe" ('Honor' meaning 'estate of'). It would appear that those going to America around that time took the English language that existed here when they left. We have changed the spelling to e.g. 'honour' since then. What is equally 'daft' is that we didn't standardize our changes (traditional English '-ize' again there). We don't, for example, have an army rank of Majour, do we? Why not? American English has idiosyncrasies like 'aluminum' and 'nucular' but that's no dafter than Cockney 'bruvver' or northern 'aye'. None of it is 'dafter' than the other.

 

[Commachio]

Recepticales = plug sockets

 

[13thtop]

Another two pages or so to find only apparent progress on the deal, why don't we start a lets talk about **** thread and leave the original ones regarding the topic

 

[Commachio]

Another two pages or so to find only apparent progress on the deal, why don't we start a lets talk about **** thread and leave the original ones regarding the topic

Cos not enuff people post. If evetything kept on topic we'll have threads 3 weeks old with a dozen replies on the first page.

 

[Commachio]

Another two pages or so to find only apparent progress on the deal, why don't we start a lets talk about **** thread and leave the original ones regarding the topic

2 things about this post. Firstly Relic liked it. Yet in a post just above it, he gave an indepth report on american terms. Hardly dzeko related.

Secondly. (Dont take this the wrong way you are not the worst by a long way)

You ask to keep on topic and yet average 1 post every 4 days.

 

[The Relic]

Recepticales = plug sockets

Ha, I haven't come across that one before mate. But why not put "recepticales" in people's new houses if that's what they want. I mean you already install those American 'water tank' things for them don't you? (tank is derived from a Caribbean 'Indian' tribe's 'tankh' - it means 'imitation reservoir'. They dug holes in logs and lined them with clay to preserve rain for the coming dry period). Potatl, tomato, sometimes, radio, etc. are all 'Americanisms, dale and marsh are Danish or Old Norse, jodhpurs is from India, tattoo is from Fiji. Don't knock it mate - the story of our language is truly global. And bloody wonderful.

 

[Nads]

****ing winds me up when people whinge about going off topic.

if we are being pedantic the language conversation developed from posts about the original topic and therefore technically was part of it.

It's a forum. As in a place people come to talk.

 

[Hefty fullback]

Bollocks . . . . it's our fecking language, and they've ruined it, the thick ****s grr

The only time that anybody should use the singular version is if they're thick Ferkin Mercans steam

There's a story going around the last few days about a Texas mom who woke up after surgery with a British accent.

 

[The Relic]

Another two pages or so to find only apparent progress on the deal, why don't we start a lets talk about **** thread and leave the original ones regarding the topic

Cos not enuff people post. If evetything kept on topic we'll have threads 3 weeks old with a dozen replies on the first page.

Cos not enuff people post. If evetything kept on topic we'll have threads 3 weeks old with a dozen replies on the first page.

Hang on lads. First I 'liked' 13thtop's post because he is technically right. And then I answered the language topic because, sensibly, Commachio1 is right. Which 'right' is righter than the other 'right' - sorry, I don't know. Hell, I just answered what was there.

 

[Commachio]

****ing winds me up when people whinge about going off topic.

if we are being pedantic the language conversation developed from posts about the original topic and therefore technically was part of it.

It's a forum. As in a place people come to talk.

A library for most. Every thread goes wayward or they die.

Simples.

 

[Commachio]

Hang on lads. First I 'liked' 13thtop's post because he is technically right. And then I answered the language topic because, sensibly, Commachio1 is right. Which 'right' is righter than the other 'right' - sorry, I don't know. Hell, I just answered what was there.

Nah its just my pet hate mate. Ad Nads explains above, people whinge about threads going ot but do nothing the rectify it.

 

[Nads]

You are lead to the forum for football that, but it spend time, feel as if you know folk, and when you know folk then you start chatting about other ****.

It's normality.

 

[The Norton Cat]

I haven't been following this thread and only came across this language section this morning. But I can confirm what Washy said. A few years ago, I had occasion to see the text of a land survey by John Norden on behalf of Prince Charles (King Chares 1 to be) over the period 1619-1621. There are several cases of e.g. "in the Honor of Pickeringe" ('Honor' meaning 'estate of'). It would appear that those going to America around that time took the English language that existed here when they left. We have changed the spelling to e.g. 'honour' since then. What is equally 'daft' is that we didn't standardize our changes (traditional English '-ize' again there). We don't, for example, have an army rank of Majour, do we? Why not? American English has idiosyncrasies like 'aluminum' and 'nucular' but that's no dafter than Cockney 'bruvver' or northern 'aye'. None of it is 'dafter' than the other.

Actually, I believe 'honor' in the sense you are referring to it and 'honour' are different words with different meanings. The Americans had a deliberate round of spelling reforms in the 19th century instigated by a bloke called Noah Webster. He wanted to simplify the English language for some reason. So, the yanks use spellings in the Merriem-Webster dictionary (which contains all Noah's simplified spellings) and we use the spellings in the OED (which is obviously better).

 

[Commachio]

Wheres @Gordon Armstrong hes missin oot.

 

[Hefty fullback]

Roma must offload striker Edin Dzeko to free up space in the squad for coach Luciano Spalletti's key target Arkadiusz Milik, it has been claimed.

Dzeko only joined Roma last summer from Manchester City, but he has struggled to make an impact in Italy and Giallorossi boss Luciano Spalletti is not convinced by the striker.

Read more: http://www.insidefutbol.com/2016/06...om-for-arkadiusz-milik/292256/?#ixzz4Cg09ornA


According to Sport.ba, Mancini is willing to make new contact with Dzeko even if Icardi’s future turns out to be with the Nerazzurri. Nonetheless, Roma only wish to sell the striker permanently, and loaning him to Inter would not be in their interest.

Dzeko hit the headlines for all the wrong reasons for the Giallorossi in their last Serie A campaign, and was much maligned for missing a host of chances. The 30-year-old ultimately netted eight goals in 31 Serie A appearances.

 

[The Relic]

Actually, I believe 'honor' in the sense you are referring to it and 'honour' are different words with different meanings. The Americans had a deliberate round of spelling reforms in the 19th century instigated by a bloke called Noah Webster. He wanted to simplify the English language for some reason. So, the yanks use spellings in the Merriem-Webster dictionary (which contains all Noah's simplified spellings) and we use the spellings in the OED (which is obviously better).

Sorry mate, but 'honor' goes back to the Norman conquest, when portions of land were distributed as rewards for good military service to Willie the Conc. Webster wasn't going to argue with the original word because it was phonetic and therefore the easiest to use.

 

[Nacho]

****ing winds me up when people whinge about going off topic.

if we are being pedantic the language conversation developed from posts about the original topic and therefore technically was part of it.

It's a forum. As in a place people come to talk.

Aye I struggle to see why it matters to some when a thread goes off on a tangent. It's not like off topic stuff somehow blocks on topic posts from being seen, if we sign Dzeko we'll all know about it.

 

[Commachio]

. Well this is different. Certainly one of the strangest debates ive read.