Transfer Rumours Diogo Dalot

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Chief said:
I did think that myself but TFM I reckon is more a centre half. This lad is a right back or wing back.

I'm hoping that should we actually get Alderweireld this will give Mourinho the confidence to get rid of Smalling, Rojo and, possibly, Jones and then bring back Tuanzebe and Fosu-Mensah into the squad.

Hopefully!

How you anyway?
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Good cheers mate. How’s you ?

Seems a bit quiet on here now. Anyone still posting apart from Math ?

I’d like to see those young lads given a chance, Smalling and Jones have had enough chances and gave only shown they’re not at the level that should be required for United.
 
Can't see Fosu's prospects at CB with Bailly and Lindelof coming in already as well, but who knows. We really should get rid of Jones and Rojo though. There really aren't many great English defenders around atm from the little I've see this past season.
 
I reckon TFM has a decent chance to get in at CB, he did pretty well at Palace and I think Jones and Rojo will be on the way. None of Smalling, Bailly and Lindelof have proven themselves yet, so we could have four CBs competing to establish themselves next season.

Cameron BJ is likely the one who is finished now. Two underwhelming loan seasons means he's probably out the door with Dalot to replace him and Darmian.
 
As a full-back? Yeh why not, just right for hacking down overrated clowns like Morata <ok>
 
CFC: Champions of FFP x2 said:
No need. Morata falls over all by himself!

So is Jose playing football the United way as you said he would?
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It's a work in progress <whistle>

Tbf after his first season, he's earned the right to be given time and whilst I jest above with "work in progress", I actually do think he'll bring both success and attacking football. I've seen what he did at Real Madrid, and he's developing us in almost exactly the same way. Real Madrid as an attacking team were expansive and prolific in style in his last season compared to in his first. Just a shame he came up against Pep managing an exceptionally good rival team in Spain. Thankfully he doesn't have that problem here... <whistle>
 
Treble said:
It's a work in progress <whistle>

Tbf after his first season, he's earned the right to be given time and whilst I jest above with "work in progress", I actually do think he'll bring both success and attacking football. I've seen what he did at Real Madrid, and he's developing us in almost exactly the same way. Real Madrid as an attacking team were expansive and prolific in style in his last season compared to in his first. Just a shame he came up against Pep managing an exceptionally good rival team in Spain. Thankfully he doesn't have that problem here... <whistle>
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Really, in his last season at Real, Madrid finished 15 points behind Barca and scored 20 fewer goals than the previous season when they scored loads
 
CFC: Champions of FFP x2 said:
Really, in his last season at Real, Madrid finished 15 points behind Barca and scored 20 fewer goals than the previous season when they scored loads
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Is that overall or just the league? You are probably right, but then you could apply measuring it by goals scored to United this season? All I remember is the football was far more attacking with each season. I just can't be bothered to go back and look.
 
Treble said:
Is that overall or just the league? You are probably right, but then you could apply measuring it by goals scored to United this season? All I remember is the football was far more attacking with each season. I just can't be bothered to go back and look.
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Fair enough.

I can’t remember Real being more expansive in 12/13 than 11/12.

Wishful thinking?

Anyway, you may well play better football next season than the last. It couldn’t be any worse

Unless you perpetuate Jose season 3 theory @Stan

My theory is that football has moved on and Jose simply is not an effective as he used to be
 
CFC: Champions of FFP x2 said:
Fair enough.

I can’t remember Real being more expansive in 12/13 than 11/12.

Wishful thinking?

Anyway, you may well play better football next season than the last. It couldn’t be any worse

Unless you perpetuate Jose season 3 theory @Stan

My theory is that football has moved on and Jose simply is not an effective as he used to be
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What?

You’re rarely on here but you always tag me. Do you want an autograph or something?
 
CFC: Champions of FFP x2 said:
Fair enough.

I can’t remember Real being more expansive in 12/13 than 11/12.

Wishful thinking?

Anyway, you may well play better football next season than the last. It couldn’t be any worse

Unless you perpetuate Jose season 3 theory @Stan

My theory is that football has moved on and Jose simply is not an effective as he used to be
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He won 2 trophies last season. He's finished 2nd in the league this season to a remarkable City side, but still above the so-called "attacking, exciting, forward-thinking" managers in the prem. You have Real Madrid winning 3 out of the last 4 Champion Leagues so it's not as if anyone else is doing any better. So how you can claim football has moved on and Jose is simply not as effective, is beyond me tbh. Wishful thinking?
 
Treble said:
He won 2 trophies last season. He's finished 2nd in the league this season to a remarkable City side, but still above the so-called "attacking, exciting, forward-thinking" managers in the prem. You have Real Madrid winning 3 out of the last 4 Champion Leagues so it's not as if anyone else is doing any better. So how you can claim football has moved on and Jose is simply not as effective, is beyond me tbh. Wishful thinking?
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Mourinho in the 00s would not have been happy with finishing 6th, 20 odd points behind the leaders.

And 15 points behind City. After a mega spend too. Playing **** football

Would Fergie?

United fans seem to have recalibrated their expectations.
 
He wasn't happy finishing 6th, he improved the following season enough to finish 2nd.

We'll have to see how next season pans out, for him to instantly win the league is a ridiculous expectation given the two manager before him.

As for spending money, care to tell me how much City spent and have also since? But you expect everyone to compete with that and have instant success?
 
Chief said:
He wasn't happy finishing 6th, he improved the following season enough to finish 2nd.

We'll have to see how next season pans out, for him to instantly win the league is a ridiculous expectation given the two manager before him.

As for spending money, care to tell me how much City spent and have also since? But you expect everyone to compete with that and have instant success?
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Not everyone. Just United. Jose + big budget = league titles at Porto, Chelsea twice, Inter and Real.

Why not at United?
 
Because while he has a big budget, Pep's is four times the size?

Or do you buy into this myth that Pep improves players? By buying two at 50 million each for every position in the squad!

Even since they won the league they have already bought three more at 50 mill+. For all the money we spent, they spend at least double. This is who we finished second too.

And you lot fifth!
 
Chief said:
Because while he has a big budget, Pep's is four times the size?

Or do you buy into this myth that Pep improves players? By buying two at 50 million each for every position in the squad!

Even since they won the league they have already bought three more at 50 mill+. For all the money we spent, they spend at least double. This is who we finished second too.

And you lot fifth!
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Didn't stop Chelsea in 2016/17.

You can't blame LVG and Moyes forever. Jose has had 2 windows to sort his team out and plenty of cash.
 
Yet in that time has improved us from 6th to 2nd, while City STILL spent twice as much in the same period.

Not sure what bit of that you're failing to grasp.

It's a work I progress, not an instant result.
 
CFC: Champions of FFP x2 said:
Mourinho in the 00s would not have been happy with finishing 6th, 20 odd points behind the leaders.

And 15 points behind City. After a mega spend too. Playing **** football

Would Fergie?

United fans seem to have recalibrated their expectations.
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Your original point was that "football had moved on and Jose was simply not effective anymore." Yet he won 2 (arguably 3) trophies in his first season, and we've finished 2nd to an exceptional City side. IF football has moved on and he's not effective, then what does that say for the managers of every team that finished below United, and won less than he has in the same 2 year period? Just saying <ok>
 
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