Well if she wants freedom of movement and laws that look after immigrants she's going the wrong country.The indigenous population are kept in camps in the desert in the Northern territory's given enough money to become drunks or junkies but no more.All refugees are kept on Islands in little better than concentration camps and left to rot there or agree to go back home.And People like your daughter will have to agree that they can have no council housing or benefits for 2 years even if they are starving.And I hope she is 100% white because she won't get a welcome if she's not.
We know something about the potential negatives: it is easy to extrapolate negatives from current positives and pop them into models. But we can’t put numbers on the things that haven’t happened as a result of our EU membership that might now happen. Models can’t factor in the benefits we will get from new trade deals outside the EU: the US, India, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea and Mexico have already expressed interest in getting deals done fast. They can’t factor in any changes to our welfare system that might result from negotiations over free movement of labour. They can’t even start to take into account the twists and turns of British politics: how well Brexit goes depends to a large degree on who leads Brexit Britain. Brexit hysterics have spent the last five days behaving as if they know — for absolute certain — what hideous dark disasters are waiting for us around dark corners. They don’t. In a few years they might find themselves pleasantly surprised. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/dae4d806-3ee5-11e6-9f2c-36b487ebd80a.html#axzz4DFveaT00
The finger pointing from those wishing the vote had went the opposite way is tedious. As a majority we voted out, live with it. The truth is NOBODY knows if it will be a better or worse Britain. As a nation we can whine and be glass half empty or we can embrace it and make it work. Buy British, buy local, stick together and make it work, those crying we are out or leaving get a grip. FTSE is higher now than it has been all year, it was only a week ago we were all worse off by 8% (so someone pointed out). Yes we will lose in some areas, we just need to gain more than we lose in others. Those voting out haven't done anything wrong, they had an opinion as for being the financial hub comment, short lived are the memories of how those banks crippled us a few years back with their greed
OLOF mate, democracy is accepting the views of the majority, not necessarily agreeing with them. I voted Labour at the last election, I didn't join the Conservative party just because they lost
Ah, democracy....... I accept a majority of 1m voted for Leave It does not alter the fact I continue to think they were frigging eejits (as TC was a Leaver, I assume from the above, my case has been made for me ) I am not one calling for a second referendum, just because I don't like the result. What does concern me though is you ask different people what they were voting for and you get different answers, we don't actually know what "leave the EU" will mean yet, and won't until a new PM is elected by the few swivel eyed loons who are paid up members of the Conservative party. There is therefore a case for getting a validation when the plan is spelled out. That could work both ways, by the way. What will you Leave voters do if Farage is jumping up and down saying that the new PM has betrayed the vote and produced a Brexit in name alone? You will have no mechanism to do anything about it.
Both the remain and leave camps fought a campaign full of lies and scaremongering, none of them were totally honest partly because they didn't know what exit would mean, if anything I would say the remain camp told more lies. When you say 1million more voted out - this figure isn't a true reflection of the margin. I know LOTS of people who voted remain but wanted out, their companies put fear into them. I know voters who changed to remain after Osborne lied about an emergency budget. Gibraltar voted out by something like 98% and the Scots who might be going it alone were also in remain by a large percentage. As a nation we are not well liked, we all know that. Despite the dislike the French and Germans were desperate for us to remain, they joined in with the lies and the scaremongering and why? They need us more than we need them maybe?? My only concern is them attempting to make an example of us, they need us to fail. Succeed and others will jump ship, we need to make this work and I have no doubt we will. If the Scots wish to leave then good luck to them.
LONDON (Reuters) - Around 20 startup banks and financial firms have reaffirmed plans to invest a total of up to 500 million pounds to open in Britain, consulting firm PwC said on Friday. These investment plans will be a boost for Britain's financial services sector, beset by rumours of job cuts and firms moving overseas in the aftermath of Britain's vote to leave the European Union and potentially surrender some of its access to EU markets. The banks are a mixture of UK, European, and non-EU businesses and have already committed 200 million pounds, PwC said, with total funding of up to half a billion pounds featured in their business plans. Stephen Morse, financial services partner at PwC, said the around 20 clients investing in Britain were not only mainstream banks, mortgage lenders and asset managers. "There are a range of new technology-enabled banks, fintech businesses, commercial banks and even niche investment banks who have identified gaps in the market in part caused by big global banks having pulled out of some businesses over the past few years," he said. Since the Brexit vote last week, banks, including Goldman Sachs (N:GS) and Morgan Stanley (N:MS), have denied rumours they are already moving thousands of jobs out of Britain as a result of the referendum. http://m.uk.investing.com/news/stoc...t-500-million-pounds-in-britain----pwc-112900
I know that mate, i'm on about those who are saying they should ignore the majority of the people who had the good sense to tell the unelected, undemocratic bent EU to **** off. Cameron had 6 million votes already in the bag just to make sure he won the vote, but even that backfired on him and he lost, the moaners will have to live with it Where's this WW3 he said would happen btw?
You do talk some crap, Chesh, but this time you've gone too far. The abos live as they do because that's how they want to live. There are no 'camps' for them to live in, they are free to go where-ever they please. The gov't build them houses and all they do is tear out all the wood (doors, window frames etc) and build fires to sit around in the dust. One elder actually complained that building them three bedroomed houses of brick was 'against their culture' and said they should be supplied with corrugated iron so that they could build their own traditional humpies. I still can't remember when a basically stone age people invented corrugated iron. Pull your head in, twat, and stick to things you may know. They are given money, true, it's called unemployment benefit (or unemployable benefit) what they choose to spend it on is their affair. You should try the 'refugees on islands' bit. It works, and as for leaving them to rot, as you say, they couldn't smell much worse if they did. Phew, can't believe I said all that, but it feels much better.
Instead, the Aborigines in the camps inhabited something quite different. At best, it was a combination of old family loyalties and the missionary ideal of small, patriarchal religious communities governed by a daily timetable decreeing the hours for meals, work, school and religious worship.[16] At worst, it was a violent, chaotic, binge-drinking, sexually promiscuous, heavy-gambling lifestyle little different to the worst remote communities in central and northern Australia today, One way to examine the culture of these camps is through the perceptions of the Aborigines Protection Board. This approach is obviously limited, since it omits the perspective of the Aborigines, but it is nonetheless imperative if we are to understand why the board acted as it did. By the early 1900s, the board had come to the conclusion that, even though it was originally responsible for creating these camps by providing the sites and the rations that drew people to them, the predominance of low-life culture meant most of them were now unfit for children to grow up in. Their three most serious problems were alcoholism, indolence and sexual abuse. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ OW AND FORGOT YOU STOLE THEIR CHILDREN There's many programs about it,just post me one where they say this is how we choose to live.
Brisbane-The Abo's as you call them were set up to fail,Housing built hundreds of miles from anywhere,no transport,jobs,proper schooling or Hospitals.Just as south Africa did with there Black geto's over there.The point I was making was if more was being said,A guys daughter was looking to leave the uk because we don't want foreign migrants and refugees,well Australia are much more strict and don't want them than we are. First time I went Aus I forgot to get a Visa,but was told its ok your white with a UK pasport,if you weren't you wouldn't be going today.Had to pay $30 to do it on line. Ps how do you know the refugees smell ? Have you been there or just a racist comment.
I didn't say that everything the white man did was for the best. As for the 'stolen generation'? I've worked with guys that were 'stolen' from England. Sent to Australia (often without the knowledge or consent of their parents) and put to work on farms by their Roman catholic "saviours". So it wasn't only the abos that suffered from this gross of the young. As for living, as you imagine. miles from anywhere, I've already told you they don't want to live in cities (so they say) until some foreign news crew asks them why and they can spout on about how ill treated they are by the white man. Really, Chesh, you should come and experience it first hand before you jump on the media bandwagon, and i don't mean a three week holiday.
The point I was making,is the very thing we want,less imagration and our country back,you already have,and to leave the UK because you don't like it that way,well there's no point going Aus to get away from it,as you already have a country just like we want ours to be.I do agree all refugees should be put in camps,no council houses and benefits,if they are genuine they would be happy with that.
I left the UK in '71, some time before immigration became a big problem. Before then there were problems with West Indian immigration, then in the mid fifties Cypriots and Turks but everything settled down after a while and they all integrated. They were no terrorist threat even though some of them, particularly the Cypriots had been roughly dealt with at the hands of the British army in Cyprus. No, we left for other reasons among which was the knowledge (told to us directly) that our children would never be able to go to grammar school because we didn't own our own house, so a chance at University was out of the question. Both my kids have degrees and masters in their respective fields, thanks to a more egalitarian society here in Oz. Remember, Chesh, I am an immigrant and am always mindful of that fact, but I chose to come here and made it a priority to become the best Aussie I could, but I expect others who do likewise to also try their best to become assimilated and not bring their woes with them or to sponge off the work of others. Not all immigrants do, I admit, but they aren't the ones we're talking about, are they?
The UK has been probably the worlds most tolerant country for immigrants but there's no more room in a lot of peoples opinion now,and that's why we voted for out IMO.
Indeed I did vote leave despite the Eurocrats with their Project Fear - and I know exactly why I voted to Leave Have we seen the immediate tax increases and budget cuts promised by Osborne? - No. Will the European business leaders "punish" the British people as promised by moving jobs out of Britain into the continent? Doubt it Will the other European Governments "punish" the British people for exercising our sovereign right of self government by cutting trade and finances like promised? Doubt it. These Eurocrats allowed over 1.5 million migrants with no job skills or education UNCHECKED entry into Europe last year and more will come this year - These migrants have committed rampaging crime sprees wherever they go including terror attacks in Paris and Brussels. The economies of other European stares are grim at best - they are trapped under mountains of unpayable debt making austerity plans just to avoid late payments. Unemployment is high especially for young people and growth is negligible (the Antartic is the only continent with lower growth than Europe) - that is why 3 million people from Poland and Romania are currently working in the UK . These Eurocrats wagered project fear to try to get us to remain - why was that? Was it the fear of losing the £357M per week we give them? Or the fear of losing the dumping ground for 250,000 migrants each year? These 2 reasons alone were well worth an "X" in the box. The EU is desperate to increase its trans-Atlantic trade - if they made any cuts to us, that would infuriate the Yanks - as they have trillions invested in UK businesses - as do the Chinese. Think about it
