Our batting in test matches has been crap for years. It's always been a case of if Root fails England fail. Crawley Duckett Pope Brook Smith all nowhere near good enough to win an away ashes. No idea what we have in coming through in the county game mind but our batting is as weak now as it was in the mid 90s.
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Yep. Too many pre prepared plans.
To me, it's mostly a matter of adjusting your style when others catch on. Teams were struggling with England's approach three years ago, including Australia.
But they think and learn. As in football you can't always play the way you want to play. Even in this new phase, the best innings have been played after earning the right. We have forgotten that, though Stokes and Jacks showed how to bat today.
It's like Southampton or Burnley, blindingly doing the same thing and getting tw***ed.
Well planning for this series has been really spot on! Those "has beens" ex England players may actually know what they're talking about.
Going into a series as massive as this one with only net sessions and 1 practice match against the England reserves was arrogant at the best or seriously foolhardy at the worst. It would be like Sunderland preparing for the Premier League with training sessions and a game against the u21s before playing Man City or Arsenal. They haven't played proper cricket since the end of August or September whereas the Aussie players are in their domestic season.
Their lack of preparation for the biggest series in cricket beggars belief!
Going into a series as massive as this one with only net sessions and 1 practice match against the England reserves was arrogant at the best or seriously foolhardy at the worst. It would be like Sunderland preparing for the Premier League with training sessions and a game against the u21s before playing Man City or Arsenal. They haven't played proper cricket since the end of August or September whereas the Aussie players are in their domestic season.
Their lack of preparation for the biggest series in cricket beggars belief!
The planning is very hard now mind. The States refuse to put up decent teams, and even practice is difficult. England were given sub standard net facilities in Perth.
On top of that, there just isn't the time now. The calendar is chocka block with cricket.
That said, we have not played to our best. Other teams have caught on, and are just pitching the ball up outside off and getting a lot of cheap wickets.
Overall it is harder and harder to win away. Australia, by the time they come here next, will have went over twenty five years without winning here, often with markedly better sides. They won't win here next time either.
Really?
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Everyone can see through this horseshit.
I was daft enough to believe we had a fighting chance. Half of the Aussie team is their reserves.
He was the first test captain since 1986 to win the Ashes in 2005. He's also scored over 600 runs against them.
I'm all for attacking exciting cricket but sometimes you just need to hang in there and pick of the bad balls
I'm all for attacking exciting cricket but sometimes you just need to hang in there and pick of the bad balls
Jonathan Agnew made a very good and balanced point the other day.
He said that when Stokes took over, England badly needed the new approach and he was right. We were wimping our way to defeat after defeat with the occasional timid draw.
Even at it's height though, England"s fire cracker batting had periods of caution before the onslaughts. This has been forgotten.
Agnew was spot on. But now, though earlier almost every team struggled against such a fierce approach, teams have worked out a way to play against it. Apart from the brilliant Starc, who could swing a lump of coal and take wickets in any conditions, the bowlers have not had to work for their wickets.
They just put the ball eight or ten inches outside off and on a length and after a couple of boundaries the wickets will fall, especially the new men in. The bowlers are no longer being hit off their length. If that doesn't do it, just bang it in and invite a hook. It's hard to score sixes in Australia as the grounds are so much bigger.
One thing I would say is that almost all the batsmen have been stuck in their crease for too long. Fair enough against Starc who is very quick, but against the others getting the feet forward is a must and too many have perished timidly standing back to medium/quick paced, though accurate bowling. It's another thing they have forgotten.
Happening at Perth was one thing. But happening again is another.
As in football, you can't always play the way you want to. The other lot will sooner or later work out a way to stop you.
It’s not even news, it was that predictable.