While he never hit the same highs without Taylor, Forest won won the League Cup twice, were runners up twice and were runners up in the FA Cup post the Taylor era under Clough. How I wish QPR had such a poor manager.Wee I once heard John Mcgovern say that Peter Taylor did all the man management with the Forest players and was the motivator in the training sessions while Cloughie inspired them all to dream they could be the best team in Europe ! Possibly why Cloughie was so poor without Taylor, so I guess it is possible .