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After 911 the IRA saw what happens when you fly a jumbo jet into a skyscraper, they ended up bouncing a hot air balloon off Canary Warfe

You do know that the IRA called their last, permanent, ceasefire 5 years before 9/11?
 
The thread was about the attacks going on in Kabul now. Anyone who straps explosives to them thinking they will go straight to heaven as a result is clearly warped out of their mind. Intentionally killing innocent civillians is totally wrong anyway, be it leaving a bomb and running away or strapping it to yourself and taking one for the boys. Of course reasons and excuses can be given but in my opinion they never stand up.

You seem to have changed your tune since the other day and your "Brown Bread" thread.
 
The whole martyrdom thing is overplayed. Half these guys just want the Yanks and the others out. They are not fighting some Holy war here, they are fighting an occupation. I remember during our own conflict politicians and press in Britain would be saying things like 'our whole way of life is under attack' and other such stuff. It was nonsense.

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If people seriously believe that ALL the attacks in Iraq or Afghanistan were suicide attacks then you need your head read

Its always us good them bad

The fact is the taleban (and afghans in general) are a proud and fierce peoples.
There is a reason they are undefeated
 
Going toe to toe with an Army would be suicidal. Not sure what we are doing out there anyway. Everyone knows alot of the Taliban are out of the country waiting for us to leave before returning. We are peeing in the wind.
 
If people seriously believe that ALL the attacks in Iraq or Afghanistan were suicide attacks then you need your head read

I don't think that anyone suggested that they were.


The fact is the taleban (and afghans in general) are a proud and fierce peoples.
There is a reason they are undefeated

The Taleban aren't a fierce, proud people, they're an oppressive bunch of religious lunatics.
 
The Taleban aren't a fierce, proud people, they're an oppressive bunch of religious lunatics.

Correct. The tribes under the Northern Alliance are the fierce proud ones. It was they that kicked the Ruskies out of Afganistan, and they are enemies of the Taliban.

If the west had supported them with weaopns and artillery and perhaps air support before their commander Massoud was assassinated they would have routed the Taliban without any need to send in our troops.
 
The Taliban are just defending their country like elements of every country in the world would if it had been invaded by a foreign army. When they ran the country at least men had jobs and women didnt have to send their children out begging. The main problems in the country are unemployment, police corruption and kidnapping which the police are involved in. The people of the country want the soldiers and the corrupt government that America installed out so support for the Taliban is growing all the time, although their views that women should not be educatd or work are bad, the country would be alot safer for everyone and men would be able to work and earn money for their families.

Who is anyone to tell another culture how to live?

Lets not forget, the Taliban did not attack the West, they were accused of harbouring Bin Laden but what isnt widely reported, is that fact that they offered to hand over Bin Laden if America could provide evidence that he was involved in the 9/11 attacks, America could not and the Taliban refused.
 
The Taliban are just defending their country like elements of every country in the world would if it had been invaded by a foreign army. When they ran the country at least men had jobs and women didnt have to send their children out begging. The main problems in the country are unemployment, police corruption and kidnapping which the police are involved in. The people of the country want the soldiers and the corrupt government that America installed out so support for the Taliban is growing all the time, although their views that women should not be educatd or work are bad, the country would be alot safer for everyone and men would be able to work and earn money for their families.

Who is anyone to tell another culture how to live?

Us English and British of course. We've done it for centuries, why should we stop now? The world isn't going to civilise itself <ok>
 
it annoys me when someone commits suicide and then someone says "oh they took the easy way out"..it takes cahunas the size of coconuts to pull the trigger on yourself, blow yourself up, throw yourself under a train etc no matter how "depressed" you are