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Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by neveroffsidereff, Mar 16, 2020.

  1. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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  2. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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  4. neveroffsidereff

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    Right, that the front lawn all cut, decking, fencing and pergola pressure washed and done. Bloody knackered now. Tomorrow cut the grass, and rake up the leaves, I’ll be on my knees tomorrow night.
     
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  5. swantastic

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    Been doing this
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    At home to keep from going stir crazy, knees killing me too <wah>
     
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    Why can one buy compost,plants,garden tools in Lidl but,garden centers are closed?
     
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    Because every Lidl bit helps?
     
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    <laugh>
     
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  9. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

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    Might have 6 months to finish it if the boffins don't get a grip on this virus thing or if Boris gets annoyed with the sun worshippers out n about tomrrow mun !
     
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    Booommmmmm <cheers><cheers><cheers>
     
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  13. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

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    I'll take the welder
     
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    O like music so.....
     
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  15. Taffvalerowdy

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    The new coronavirus may already have infected far more people in the UK than scientists had previously estimated — perhaps as much as half the population — according to modelling by researchers at the University of Oxford.

    If the results are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment, said Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology, who led the study. The vast majority develop very mild symptoms or none at all.

    However, the modelling by Oxford’s Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease group has been challenged by other scientists. They have pointed out that the study presents possible scenarios — based on assumptions about the nature of the virus, its virulence and its arrival from China — that contradict those supported by most epidemiologists.

    The Oxford research suggests that Covid-19 reached the UK by mid-January at the latest and perhaps as early as December. It spread invisibly for a month or more before the first transmissions within the UK were officially recorded at the end of February and the epidemic started to grow exponentially.

    “We need immediately to begin large-scale serological surveys — antibody testing — to assess what stage of the epidemic we are in now,” Prof Gupta said.

    The research presents a very different view of the epidemic to the modelling at Imperial College London, which has strongly influenced government policy. “I am surprised that there has been such unqualified acceptance of the Imperial model,” said Prof Gupta.

    However, she was reluctant to criticise the government for shutting down the country to suppress viral spread, because the accuracy of the Oxford model has not yet been confirmed and, even if it is correct, social distancing will reduce the number of people becoming seriously ill and relieve severe pressure on the NHS during the peak of the epidemic.

    The Oxford study is based on what is known as a “susceptibility-infected-recovered model” of Covid-19, built up from case and death reports from the UK and Italy. The researchers made what they regard as the most plausible assumptions about the behaviour of the virus.

    The modelling brings back into focus “herd immunity”, the idea that the virus will stop spreading when enough people have become resistant to it because they have already been infected. The government abandoned its unofficial herd immunity strategy — allowing controlled spread of infection — after its scientific advisers said this would swamp the National Health Service with critically ill patients.

    But the Oxford results would mean the country had already acquired substantial herd immunity through the unrecognised spread of Covid-19 over more than two months. If the findings are confirmed by testing, then the current restrictions could be removed much sooner than ministers have indicated.

    Although some experts have shed doubt on the strength and length of the human immune response to the virus, Prof Gupta said the emerging evidence made her confident that humanity would build up herd immunity against Covid-19.

    To provide the necessary evidence, the Oxford group is working with colleagues at the Universities of Cambridge and Kent to start antibody testing on the general population as soon as possible, using specialised “neutralisation assays which provide reliable readout of protective immunity,” Prof Gupta said. They hope to start testing later this week and obtain preliminary results within a few days.

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  16. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

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    Testing testing testing , then we'll know, until then its supposition
     
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  17. neveroffsidereff

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    I’ve got two Miller water cooled TIG welders in work. Cracking machines cost us 6k a piece. Problem is can’t use them at home don’t have enough power. Lend us a bucket or two of some amps. :)
     
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  18. neveroffsidereff

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    I think that’s very true. I had a terrible cough for four days early Feb and another colleague in work was the same, plus breathing difficulties so I do wonder if I’ve had it.
     
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    My wife was in hospital for 4 days in January with these Covid-19 symptoms.
     
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  20. Taffvalerowdy

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    Absolutely the case
     
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