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RedorDead said:
All the more reason to have the jab then surely? More people vaccinated, less in hospital more room for other illnesses. And that’s coming from someone who lost his father due to not getting into hospital for a blood transfusion to help with cancer.
Makes more sense to get yourself off down the hospital for your jab if you’re concerned mate.
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Not concerned about the vaccine, more concerned that we are inundated with what they want us to believe, all the Covid data... but reluctant to show us data of the deaths from patients whom were delayed or postponed from having vital treatments before it was too late.. why isn't it out there for all to see?? Of course it will be another number to add to the covid list if any of these patients tested positive!!
I would also like to see the data that shows the number of covid deaths from healthy children, warranting the vaccine they want to dish out...
 
oneforthebristolcity said:
Would love to see a table of deaths through delay or lack treatment for other serious illnesses because of the priority given to Covid. Bet we won’t find one!!
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What utter bollox, this is from the ONS an independent body, who get their figures direct from the NHS and not government departments, if they felt/feel it necessary to get the figures for what you ask, I am sure they could and would. Why not ask them?

I suppose the moon landings were faked as well?
 
oneforthebristolcity said:
Not concerned about the vaccine, more concerned that we are inundated with what they want us to believe, all the Covid data... but reluctant to show us data of the deaths from patients whom were delayed or postponed from having vital treatments before it was too late.. why isn't it out there for all to see?? Of course it will be another number to add to the covid list if any of these patients tested positive!!
I would also like to see the data that shows the number of covid deaths from healthy children, warranting the vaccine they want to dish out...
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Bit like asking for figures for the deaths where people didn’t go to the doctors when they first noticed something. Do they have those figures. Or what about the ones that died on the way to see a doctor, do they have figures as well.
 
RedorDead said:
Bit like asking for figures for the deaths where people didn’t go to the doctors when they first noticed something. Do they have those figures. Or what about the ones that died on the way to see a doctor, do they have figures as well.
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Or those who thought about going to the doctors but couldn't be arsed and went to the pub instead.
 
RedorDead said:
Bit like asking for figures for the deaths where people didn’t go to the doctors when they first noticed something. Do they have those figures. Or what about the ones that died on the way to see a doctor, do they have figures as well.
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Yes but the cause would be of their untreated illness due to delays or cancellations..
where are the statistics showing premature deaths due to delays of start or ongoing treatments..because of covid restrictions
 
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Jiffie said:
What utter bollox, this is from the ONS an independent body, who get their figures direct from the NHS and not government departments, if they felt/feel it necessary to get the figures for what you ask, I am sure they could and would. Why not ask them?

I suppose the moon landings were faked as well?
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The type of answer I expected from you.. so you couldn’t find one either then?
You don’t think it’s necessary to know that information but quite happy to just know the figures they wish you to see.. happy with everything they tell you?
Strange, there are conflicting views from the funeral director I shared previously, who saw loved ones that he prepared for burial or cremation being registered as covid deaths saying they were totally untrue..
I think we the public, have the right to know..but I know they won’t be published..

Landings on the moon? WTF has that to do with anything. Again stupid comment but expected!! do you think that helps your argument?? Btw, we’re you there to greet them?!!!!
 
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oneforthebristolcity said:
Would love to see a table of deaths through delay or lack treatment for other serious illnesses because of the priority given to Covid. Bet we won’t find one!!
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lack of understanding .. priority …..

Case 1 …. sorry you have a terminal illness, but don't worry we have medication and help that can in 6 months time when you need it to make it less painful
Case 2 …. you need treatment or a transplant to make a difference whether you live a year or two or maybe another 10 years
Case 3 ….. you need immediate care or else you could die in the next couple of days / weeks
Case 4 … you are ill, will need treatment in next year, but need to wait at moment as no beds free at the present time,
Case 5 … you are over weight, drink far to much and smoking 30 ***s a day doesn't help ..
Case 6 … please keep taking the pain killers, do the exercises prescribed by the consultant and we will get you in as soon as there is a bed, you will not die from it.

there you go which is YOUR order of priority …….. list them ……


now bear in mind 2 facts from 1997 the oil fields started pumping £tn's of high quality sulphur free oil to the uk for 10 years we [ uk ] were rich beyond our wildest dreams in 3 years that became a black hole and nothing to show for it...
and we trillions in gold.....
could have spent 6 months oil revenue on half a dozen new hospitals and up graded 50 more … put into place more nursing staff maybe / or training facilities for them.
could have spent 6 months oil revenue on old people custom built residential homes for them with nursing facilities …..
modernised the police and fire services made better training facilities …..
improved the NW AND NE areas with the decline in their background industries and made the ore accessible …….. in 2010 …
IN 2010 the new government picked up the note.... sorry massive black hole, oil revenue wasted and gold sold … for 8 of the we had to pull in our belts first the black hole then financial cisises until 2019 we were in the black and about to do what Labour could have done / started in the 10 years after 1997 …………….
 
oneforthebristolcity said:
before it was too late.. why isn't it out there for all to see?? Of course it will be another number to add to the covid list if any of these patients tested positive!!
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you are so wide of the mark … you go by what you read [ all the negative stuff ] you come out with comments that indicate you do not fully understand what you are saying …

I will explain … " QUOTE .... Of course it will be another number to add to the covid list if any of these patients tested positive!![/QUOTE] If any of these patients, unfortunate people died with a positive test in previous 28 days they would be on the list … YOU harp on about being connected to local surgery/medical centre and "in the know" … well I have limited info [ a few nurses in hospitals and couple peeps in care homes ] anyone dying whether from other ailment at home or in care home if jabbed not jabbed would be tested regularly, usually every 4 days [ average ] so would be on the list. In 1 care home I know of 11 surviving covid cases where there was only 2 deaths [ both HAD recently been in BRI! TESTED POS: ON RETURN AND DIED WITHIN 2 WEEKS, expected, as underlying complaint ……….. COVID ON DEATH CERTIFICATE ]
 
So I’m right then!!! You just go around in circles and then say, yes it would be put down as covid..
Yea I do have connections to a large GP practice, so have a very good understanding what goes on!!
Forgive me mate, but understanding your blurb is beyond me!!
 
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realred1952 said:
lack of understanding .. priority …..

Case 1 …. sorry you have a terminal illness, but don't worry we have medication and help that can in 6 months time when you need it to make it less painful
Case 2 …. you need treatment or a transplant to make a difference whether you live a year or two or maybe another 10 years
Case 3 ….. you need immediate care or else you could die in the next couple of days / weeks
Case 4 … you are ill, will need treatment in next year, but need to wait at moment as no beds free at the present time,
Case 5 … you are over weight, drink far to much and smoking 30 ***s a day doesn't help ..
Case 6 … please keep taking the pain killers, do the exercises prescribed by the consultant and we will get you in as soon as there is a bed, you will not die from it.

there you go which is YOUR order of priority …….. list them ……


now bear in mind 2 facts from 1997 the oil fields started pumping £tn's of high quality sulphur free oil to the uk for 10 years we [ uk ] were rich beyond our wildest dreams in 3 years that became a black hole and nothing to show for it...
and we trillions in gold.....
could have spent 6 months oil revenue on half a dozen new hospitals and up graded 50 more … put into place more nursing staff maybe / or training facilities for them.
could have spent 6 months oil revenue on old people custom built residential homes for them with nursing facilities …..
modernised the police and fire services made better training facilities …..
improved the NW AND NE areas with the decline in their background industries and made the ore accessible …….. in 2010 …
IN 2010 the new government picked up the note.... sorry massive black hole, oil revenue wasted and gold sold … for 8 of the we had to pull in our belts first the black hole then financial cisises until 2019 we were in the black and about to do what Labour could have done / started in the 10 years after 1997 …………….
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Sorry mate, I admire your enthusiasm, but I think it’s you that struggles to understand reality.. that is just pure waffle..
 
oneforthebristolcity said:
So I’m right then!!! You just go around in circles and then say, yes it would be put down as covid..
Yea I do have connections to a large GP practice, so have a very good understanding what goes on!!
Forgive me mate, but understanding your blurb is beyond me!!
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GP's who are still **** scared of face to face appointments, so why would that be?

How about the figures of people who have died because GP's have refused to see patients and make ****ty diagnoses over the phone?
 
Reliant Robin TC2 said:
And then they wonder why A&E's are overcrowded!
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All the prick doctor kept saying was "do a PCR test", try doing that to a 10 month kid who is ill, incredibly traumatic, my granddaughter is a nurse and even she struggled, but did it on a daily basis and they were always negative, but still the lazy twat would not see him, it meant a bus journey from Portishead and sitting around in A & E for hours, with a negative tested traumatised baby, emptying from both ends FFS.

The good news is my granddaughter is a nurse in intensive care and the on call respiratory consultant, is somebody she works with, who has set my great grandson on hopefully the right path and ripped her doctors practice a new arsehole, the big hope now is it doesn't turn to pneumonia.

And guess what? there wasn't even a spare bed in the respiratory wards, because it was full of people suffering with something that apparently doesn't exist.

It's ok listening to fecking funeral directors and GP's who are still not doing their jobs properly, maybe some of these deniers should listen to the people in intensive care units instead.

GP's have a lot to answer for.
 
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Jiffie said:
GP's who are still **** scared of face to face appointments, so why would that be?

How about the figures of people who have died because GP's have refused to see patients and make ****ty diagnoses over the phone?
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Total and utter nonsense..
Not scared at all, but are recommended by public health, to reduce waiting room numbers to help reduce the spread...also they are also having to set up vaccine clinics so many days of the week.
I agree 100% with your last comment.....but I believe, this will be the norm for years to come.....and not because of covid......but just because they now know that they can!!!
 
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oneforthebristolcity said:
Sorry mate, I admire your enthusiasm, but I think it’s you that struggles to understand reality.. that is just pure waffle..
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No need to be sorry, I can understand that to actually prioritise the list would totally scupper your argument. And needing to revert to waffle is purely a mirror glass reactional comment.
 
oneforthebristolcity said:
Sorry, still think it's all misleading...You could have lung Cancer and be on your last couple of months on this earth, but if you test positive within 28 days of a covid test.....that is what's registered..... if you then die..
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Now on this you are absolutely correct - I've known about this for some time because my son worked on the 999 and 101 desks in Devizes and he saw first hand that this was going on. Skewing the figures - which doesn't help the cause at all.
I still believe in the jabs and disagree with a lot of your arguments, but you are correct on this - and it's very misleading.
 
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realred1952 said:
No need to be sorry, I can understand that to actually prioritise the list would totally scupper your argument. And needing to revert to waffle is purely a mirror glass reactional comment.
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I noticed, you didn't list all the delay in screening for breast. bowel, cervical cancers etc...not forgetting many delaying other serious illnesses not being able to be referred straight away ..the 1000s that will go undiagnosed early giving less chance for treatment to work.... doesn't bare thinking about
 
oneforthebristolcity said:
Total and utter nonsense..
Not scared at all, but are recommended by public health, to reduce waiting room numbers to help reduce the spread...also they are also having to set up vaccine clinics so many days of the week.
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Reduce the spread by telling people to go to A & E?, that is utter bollocks, and including a 10 month old baby FFS, that is neglect.

In my working life I had to work in very dangerous places, I had nobody telling me "you can't do that because it might be dangerous" I had to make my own decisions, people who work in emergency services know the daily dangers that they face, doctors are paid to diagnose and save lives, it's called a duty of care, it's really strange that only yesterday the government actually told GP's to start seeing patients and not rely on phone diagnosis and in no uncertain terms.

I am lucky my local health centre is efficiently well run and ahead of the game. My wife and I had absolutely no problem being seen if need be, no problems with supplies of the flu vaccine or anything like that and hospital visits were still honoured. In fact I spoke to my doctor about my great grandson and even he said "had it been me I would have seen him without hesitation, that is wrong, demand to see another doctor within the centre, to see if it's a practice decision or personal decision"
 
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