i cant believe your interpretation.. you believe it is facts but do not understand them re read it then take a btreath then re read it and you might see the real picture!
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i cant believe your interpretation.. you believe it is facts but do not understand them re read it then take a btreath then re read it and you might see the real picture!
Well another load of sucked in blurb.
The figures I quoted was documented on the tonight programme just over a week ago.. you obviously think I’m making it up..
There have been 1000s of patients that have been delayed for treatments that will/has decreased their chances of survival..
there is no point in the discussion with those that are blinkered within the control centre..
Next up on the scaremongering agenda.. “Climate change” let’s watch how the mass will get sucked in by that.. it’s gonna be great for those that will benefit from the proceeds!!
This guy was a prick. He was a well-known poster on here. Big conspiracy theorist and anti-vaxxer, that's fine if that was his beliefs, however he said some nasty things to me and other posters when I was going through tragedy which was Covid related, he was telling me I had been lied to and all sorts of other nasty ****e. One of the lads had earlier found out his real identity so i threatened him and he never come back. When I seen this had happened, I instantly thought... Karma.
that's exactly what I mean you look at things [ don't read them! ] then post stupid comments to ratify your thought process ….
I posted a / the link to ONS ! ……. [ whether you used that is irrelevant ] deaths over and above will be almost similar … no coincidence. ONS publish facts based on a trend.
read it and understand it the common thought process . ave deaths over 5 years = xxx average deaths over a year period of covid = yyy factor in the reasoning of third party interference = zzz
In this case deaths due to Flu WERE many times less. SO you need to understand that ONS is doing a comparison on a rolling basis of 5 years ! Simply meaning that is todays assumption, but in 3 years say todays figures will be the heart of that 5 years.
so no coincidence or conspiracy about similarity … so assume you phrase "well another load of sucked in blurb" is your admission that you have and taken it on board ………….
I was talking about the 30-60k deaths from patients not being treated for life threatening illnesses.. that was documented.. how many of them if tested positive for covid would count as a covid death..
pretty accurate assumption bit like saying city's gate v PNE likely to be between 3000 and 30,000.. then boasting you got it right??? WE KNOW COVID IS A KILLER we know people with other ailments are more likely to die … most patients are / were tested before during hospitalization. It would be irresponsible for doctors et al not to test ill patients so most would be tested, in any case need to be before admission. Treatment in hospital of a patient with life threatening illnesses would be risky, entering a hornets nest so to speak … a very large % caught covid from hospitals … or caught it went home spread it and developed it … most if not all shielded were tested ….. OF course I am looking at the wider picture, not just local enclaves or misunderstood incantations / mis information sources.
ps who documented 30 -60k … ONS? they DEAL WITH REALITY! so would guess unlikely them!
He used to actually post on here for real?! No way... that is insane, what team did he support by any chance?
There is definitely a place for healthy scepticism. The amount of crap and questions you could ask about the 'real' things going on with our current government, Brexit, the Iraq War... there are so many dodgy things where you shouldn't necessarily believe the mainstream and should seek out other conclusions.
The problem here is that your scepticism is misplaced - instead of being healthily critical you have gone into the area of lunacy, refusing to believe numbers, scientific evidence and hard facts and offering absolutely nothing in return. That is not normal scepticism, and instead of becoming some sort of free spirit who is not affected by the 'mainstream', which is how you see yourself, you have actually become the exact opposite. Easily led by a story that you like even if it has no proof to back it up. You're believing things with no evidence just because it goes against the mainstream. When you're listening to a podcast which has been heavily debunked over the consensus of people who are far cleverer than either of us then something has gone wrong. That is not how critical thinking should work.
It's nothing but naivety, which we're all guilty of at times, but in this case it's actually dangerous.
I’m interested in your theory that climate change is a conspiracy. This is going to be entertaining.
I am so out of this it's unbelievable, I have had the double jab, I believe in it 100% and the medical people that advocate it but I also believe in personal choice and a individuals right to argue against and disagree with it,this discussion has gone way above my pay grade so I'm staying out.
I respect the rights of both sides so I have decided to become a fence sitter but must say all of my direct family have had the jab, thats 3 generations, male and female, aged between, 16 and 74, that is 10 of us, both pfizer and astra used and we are all still thriving, some of us have also had covid 19 and it's my honest choice to believe we have all followed the right procedure.
Just wanted to join in.
I respect the rights of both sides so I have decided to become a fence sitter but must say all of my direct family have had the jab, thats 3 generations, male and female, aged between, 16 and 74, that is 10 of us, both pfizer and astra used and we are all still thriving, some of us have also had covid 19 and it's my honest choice to believe we have all followed the right procedure.
Just wanted to join in.
Yeah his name was HIAG, Sometimes he changed it to Hoddle Is A God. Tottenham supporter.
This was our last endearing exchange
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Well that's your opinion along with most that are content with the.......lets just sit on the fact that the mainstream is right, the figures, given are right, the scientific evidence is always right..the advice by qualified people must be taken notice of and no questions asked. Hard facts you keep requesting, yet actually haven't produced anything other than what's been reported or logged..
Most people like you are happy with that and I am happy for you!!
I am happy to stick to my dangerous views and not be misled by inaccurate numbers to create scaremongering and control along with measures which are quite frankly in the main pointless..
Crack on guys!!!
Nah, don't get me started mate.....maybe another day!!!...........but the climate has always changed starting over 4 billion years ago!!!
Bollocks, I got my cider, my crisp and was settled into the couch, getting ready for one of your theory’s
WOW he started off already and the parameters have widened some what .. encompasses 4 billion years .. mind you evolution probably accounts for the first 3,999,999,850 of them!
1 son in law not had a jab, but had covid. The amazing thing is the cut off point age wise! Grand daughter 16 and 4 months' just had the moderna [ everyone else phizer / astra ] a 15 year old just 2 weeks from her birthday told to come back in a couple of weeks!!! .. she should have said " I was 2 weeks overdue! "
Always ask questions mate, I'd never suggest otherwise. But if you're going to believe an alternative then I just think you should have something to back it up.
Anyways, good back and forth as ever
I do think actively encouraging people to not get the vaccine with nothing to back it up is extremely dangerous and I have no time for people like that. But you don't do that, and even if we disagree, you're entitled to your own opinions and I don't mean to be a tw@t in my replies, it's just an emotive subject 
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like I said, climate changes for over 4 billion years!!
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