I see starmer is now echoing johnson to "trust" the regulator.
when it comes to medical ethics we need to learn the lessons of the past and be responsible. the regulator needs to show themselves trustworthy (you wouldn't believe the mess in the US that the FDA are in after trump but even before that it was poor)
Once a regulator acts ethically but also proactively (and the manufacturer AND clinical bodies like hospitals etc) in ensuring adverse events actually get recorded and investigated then there can be a sound (albeit long) process of showing safety.
the issue we have is a 10 year process has been condensed to a 1 year process so the trials done can never fully show the impacts. we have approved on a risk based approach where again the benefits outweigh the risks.
the gap between "safe" and this risk based approach is genuinely massive in evidence terms. But largely the early data shows us that its been largely fine. (we hope no long term impacts due to clotting but we can noot tell so cohort studies are a must)
Yes the AZ is a viral vector vaccine so it has to basically enter a cell but the pfizer and moderna ones also need to enter cells and then get replicated . it is the recognition of these harmless spike proteins that occurs and t cells go seek and destroy this is a useful diagram. it is the memory in T and B cells that provide the long term protection and how the variants of covid affect things.
I personally think the media should go do the journalism and stop bringing stupid talking heads on to mouth off.
for me there are 3 things to note:
1. Nuremburg code (why do we have ethics in medicine. it is really important to realise where informed consent and ethics really arose)
2. Declaration of helsinki, why do we talk about risk and why we put the patient first
3. History of issues that we need to learn from (and not just drugs but also devices) there are huge amounts of things that lead to trust issues. The case on Tuskegee Syphilis Study for example. why would people of colour trust these predominately white people talking about vaccines.
finally J&J.
I just want to point out 3 things J&J have done to people.
Their current CEO has personal responsibility for their disastrous ASR hip replacement that has nearly 100,000 people implants with risk of severe metal poisoning that bascially looks like dementia and parkinson's.
Add in their transvaginal mesh product that was never safe but launched anyway on top.
then add in a recall of a janssen product for mould (that was a killer)
And finally throw in asbestos in baby power!
I wouldn't trust J&J with anything.
when it comes to medical ethics we need to learn the lessons of the past and be responsible. the regulator needs to show themselves trustworthy (you wouldn't believe the mess in the US that the FDA are in after trump but even before that it was poor)
Once a regulator acts ethically but also proactively (and the manufacturer AND clinical bodies like hospitals etc) in ensuring adverse events actually get recorded and investigated then there can be a sound (albeit long) process of showing safety.
the issue we have is a 10 year process has been condensed to a 1 year process so the trials done can never fully show the impacts. we have approved on a risk based approach where again the benefits outweigh the risks.
the gap between "safe" and this risk based approach is genuinely massive in evidence terms. But largely the early data shows us that its been largely fine. (we hope no long term impacts due to clotting but we can noot tell so cohort studies are a must)
Yes the AZ is a viral vector vaccine so it has to basically enter a cell but the pfizer and moderna ones also need to enter cells and then get replicated . it is the recognition of these harmless spike proteins that occurs and t cells go seek and destroy this is a useful diagram. it is the memory in T and B cells that provide the long term protection and how the variants of covid affect things.
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I personally think the media should go do the journalism and stop bringing stupid talking heads on to mouth off.
for me there are 3 things to note:
1. Nuremburg code (why do we have ethics in medicine. it is really important to realise where informed consent and ethics really arose)
2. Declaration of helsinki, why do we talk about risk and why we put the patient first
3. History of issues that we need to learn from (and not just drugs but also devices) there are huge amounts of things that lead to trust issues. The case on Tuskegee Syphilis Study for example. why would people of colour trust these predominately white people talking about vaccines.
finally J&J.
I just want to point out 3 things J&J have done to people.
Their current CEO has personal responsibility for their disastrous ASR hip replacement that has nearly 100,000 people implants with risk of severe metal poisoning that bascially looks like dementia and parkinson's.
Add in their transvaginal mesh product that was never safe but launched anyway on top.
then add in a recall of a janssen product for mould (that was a killer)
And finally throw in asbestos in baby power!
I wouldn't trust J&J with anything.
