Off Topic Coronavirus
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I really don't know what to believe anymore about what is or isn't the correct response. One epidemiologist said that those countries with hard lockdown and lower numbers would be hard hit when the virus comes around again, which everyone seems to say it will, because very few of the population have had their immunity tested in terms of contact with the virus.
There is some sort of alternative consensus that the way to deal with it, or have dealt with it, is to protect the old and the vulnerable and let it spread through the rest of the population while practicing social distancing and common hygiene sense. Also track and test. That way any second wave will have minimal effect. The opposite of this is what has happened here. We have high numbers now but will have low numbers in any further waves.
Restrictions will be eased from next week. Dog groomers are to be allowed to open as are other shops/businesses. I suspect pubs/clubs and restaurants will not be allowed to open yet. Large gatherings such as concerts/sports events will still be banned.
Tory government fails to meet their 100,000 tests target for a 3rd day in a row
It's almost as if Hancock lied about the numbers on 30 April just to pretend they met it...
Well it doesn’t help that 25% of people who have made confirmed bookings for tests then haven’t bothered turning up.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/v...re-how-debt-hit-greece-beat-coronavirus-video
Video feature on Greece confirms it was the fast lockdown that helped
The Tories did **** all. And for what? Did those extra few weeks of allowing flights into the country help the airline industry survive? Did they stop people getting "bored" of the lockdown?
Fast lockdown inevitably helps because it's a droplet infection.
Did you check out any of those UnHerd videos? There is no agenda just real science. The German virologist today (Schleek?) said it could be a long time before there's a vaccine given that we still don't have one for HIV or HepC. The thinking is we need to learn to work with and live with Covid viruses. He said that relative social distancing and very good hygiene may be all it takes.
The UK has the worst death rate per million citizens in the world..................heads should roll 
The UK has the worst death rate per million citizens in the world..................heads should roll
I think enough are dying already
I could suggest a few more we can add to the listI think enough are dying already
The UK has the worst death rate per million citizens in the world..................heads should roll
Yeah but the UK is a highly urbanised country with only Finland, Australia, New Zealand, Sweden, Chile, Denmark, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Japan, Israel, Iceland, and Belgium being higher.
Stolen...
I think I’ve worked it out...
* 4 year olds can go to school, but university students who have paid for the tuition they haven’t had and the accommodation they aren’t living in, can’t go to university.
* A teacher can go to school with many 4 year olds that they are not related to, but can’t see one 4 year old that they are related to.
* You can sit in a park, but not tomorrow or Tuesday but by Wednesday that’ll be fine.
* You can meet one person from another household for a chat or to sunbathe, but not two people so if you know two people from another household you have to pick your favourite. Hopefully, you’re also their favourite person from your household or this could be awkward. But possibly you’re not. But as I can’t go closer than 2m to the one you choose anyway you wouldn’t think having the other one sat next to them would matter - unless two people would restrict your eyeline too much and prevent you from being alert.
* You can work all day with your colleagues, but you can’t sit in their garden for a chat after work.
* You can now do unlimited exercise when quite frankly just doing an hour a day feels like you are some kind of fitness guru. I can think of lots of things that I would like to be unlimited but exercise definitely isn’t one of them.
* You can drive to other destinations, although which destinations is unclear.
* The buses are still running past your house, but you shouldn’t get on one. We should just let empty buses drive around so bus drivers aren’t doing nothing.
* It will soon be time to quarantine people coming into the country by air... but not yet. It’s too soon. And not ever if you’re coming from France because... well, I don’t know why, actually. Because the French version of coronavirus wouldn’t come to the UK maybe.
* Our youngest children go back to school first because... they are notoriously good at not touching things they shouldn’t, maintain personal space at all times and never randomly lick you.
* We are somewhere in between 3.5 and 4.5 on a five point scale where 5 is all of the virus and 1 is none of the virus but 2,3 and 4 can be anything you’d like it to be really. Some of the virus? A bit of the virus? Just enough virus to see off those over 70s who were told to self isolate but now we’ve realised that they’ve done that a bit too well despite us offloading coronavirus patients into care homes and now we are claiming that was never said in the first place, even though it’s in writing in the stay at home guidance.
* The slogan isn’t stay at home any more, so we don’t have to stay at home. Except we do. Unless we can’t. In which case we should go out. But there will be fines if we break the rules. So don’t do that.
Don’t forget...
Stay alert... which Robert Jenrick has explained actually means Stay home as much as possible. Obviously.
Control the virus. Well, I can’t even control my dogs and I can actually see them. Plus I know a bit about dogs and very little about controlling viruses.
Save lives. Always preferable to not saving lives, I’d say, so I’ll try my best with that one, although hopefully I don’t need telling to do that. I know I’m bragging now but not NOT saving lives is something I do every day.
So there you are. If you’re the weirdo wanting unlimited exercise then enjoy. But not until Wednesday. Obviously.
I think I’ve worked it out...
* 4 year olds can go to school, but university students who have paid for the tuition they haven’t had and the accommodation they aren’t living in, can’t go to university.
* A teacher can go to school with many 4 year olds that they are not related to, but can’t see one 4 year old that they are related to.
* You can sit in a park, but not tomorrow or Tuesday but by Wednesday that’ll be fine.
* You can meet one person from another household for a chat or to sunbathe, but not two people so if you know two people from another household you have to pick your favourite. Hopefully, you’re also their favourite person from your household or this could be awkward. But possibly you’re not. But as I can’t go closer than 2m to the one you choose anyway you wouldn’t think having the other one sat next to them would matter - unless two people would restrict your eyeline too much and prevent you from being alert.
* You can work all day with your colleagues, but you can’t sit in their garden for a chat after work.
* You can now do unlimited exercise when quite frankly just doing an hour a day feels like you are some kind of fitness guru. I can think of lots of things that I would like to be unlimited but exercise definitely isn’t one of them.
* You can drive to other destinations, although which destinations is unclear.
* The buses are still running past your house, but you shouldn’t get on one. We should just let empty buses drive around so bus drivers aren’t doing nothing.
* It will soon be time to quarantine people coming into the country by air... but not yet. It’s too soon. And not ever if you’re coming from France because... well, I don’t know why, actually. Because the French version of coronavirus wouldn’t come to the UK maybe.
* Our youngest children go back to school first because... they are notoriously good at not touching things they shouldn’t, maintain personal space at all times and never randomly lick you.
* We are somewhere in between 3.5 and 4.5 on a five point scale where 5 is all of the virus and 1 is none of the virus but 2,3 and 4 can be anything you’d like it to be really. Some of the virus? A bit of the virus? Just enough virus to see off those over 70s who were told to self isolate but now we’ve realised that they’ve done that a bit too well despite us offloading coronavirus patients into care homes and now we are claiming that was never said in the first place, even though it’s in writing in the stay at home guidance.
* The slogan isn’t stay at home any more, so we don’t have to stay at home. Except we do. Unless we can’t. In which case we should go out. But there will be fines if we break the rules. So don’t do that.
Don’t forget...
Stay alert... which Robert Jenrick has explained actually means Stay home as much as possible. Obviously.
Control the virus. Well, I can’t even control my dogs and I can actually see them. Plus I know a bit about dogs and very little about controlling viruses.
Save lives. Always preferable to not saving lives, I’d say, so I’ll try my best with that one, although hopefully I don’t need telling to do that. I know I’m bragging now but not NOT saving lives is something I do every day.
So there you are. If you’re the weirdo wanting unlimited exercise then enjoy. But not until Wednesday. Obviously.
****ing Scouse tart: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ing-Keir-Starmer-grooming-gangs.html#comments
This is because Starmer is rag-dolling Boris on a daily basis in the HOC, especially as Boris hasn't got his usual drunken, braying mob behind him acting like it's chucking out time at 'Spoons. No wonder the fat oaf hides in fridges to get away from scrutiny and questioning.
This is because Starmer is rag-dolling Boris on a daily basis in the HOC, especially as Boris hasn't got his usual drunken, braying mob behind him acting like it's chucking out time at 'Spoons. No wonder the fat oaf hides in fridges to get away from scrutiny and questioning.
I read somewhere that when Starmer was DPP he decided not to prosecute Jimmy Saville despite several Police forces having women come to them with evidence of what Saville was up to. Starmer decided it was not in the public interest and the evidence was not strong enough. If it is true I suspect the Tories will raise the issue at some point.
Oxford University have signed a deal with Astra Zenaca to produce a vaccine. Initially it was reported it would be available this Autumn, but now it appears it is still undergoing trials, which look promising. If it does turn out to be viable then AZ will produce it with the first 30m being for the UK only.
The trouble is medication of any type can look very promising right up until the final testing when they fail, or are found to have dangerous side effects.
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Moderna are reporting 100% effectiveness. There seems no doubts it works. There in stage 2 already. Side effects would appear to be the only hurdle left to get other, and as you say, that takes time.