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Boris...

  • should completely lock us down immediately and fook up all our Christmas'

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • let the bodies stack high

    Votes: 13 54.2%

  • lock us down from the 29th to fook up Treble's plans

    Votes: 8 33.3%
  • Total voters
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aberdude said:
No peej what these people are saying is that the vaccinated are dying of covid ......now first it was protect yourself others then it was but it doesn't protect others it protects yourself from hospitalisation or death......its not doing that either it seems.

https://www.ibtimes.co.in/vaccinated-people-now-make-majority-covid-deaths-us-report-854384
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aberdude said:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/ot...ong-the-vaccinated-for-first-time/ar-AA14wfgW
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In relation to these articles, both of which I agree with, there are some points to be considered.

1. The efficacy of the vaccine diminishes over time
2. There are variants of the virus emerging for which the vaccine wasn't specifically developed
3. Like all vaccines the covid vaccine doesn't give 100% protection

Additionally if 0% of the population was vaccinated then 100% of covid deaths would be in the unvaccinated population, if 100% were vaccinated then 100% of covid deaths would be in the vaccinated population. At the moment most countries are somewhere in-between 0% and 100% vaccination. As the virus mutates and the effectiveness of the vaccine subsides then in a population with a high, but old, coverage there would be an increasing death rate in the "vaccinated" population. At some point the number of deaths in the nominally vaccinated population would overtake those in the unvaccinated population, which is what both articles describe. Personally I don't think these articles are an endorsement for remaining unvaccinated but a call for people to be boosted and/ or take the bivalent vaccine which was specifically developed for omicron, although I have seen some reports suggesting that it isn't as effective against omicron as was anticipated.

In most countries taking the vaccine or not is now a personal choice and one that should perhaps be discussed with ones health advisor as there is a lot of spurious information floating about.
 
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Eric Le Merde said:
In relation to these articles, both of which I agree with, there are some points to be considered.

1. The efficacy of the vaccine diminishes over time
2. There are variants of the virus emerging for which the vaccine wasn't specifically developed
3. Like all vaccines the covid vaccine doesn't give 100% protection

Additionally if 0% of the population was vaccinated then 100% of covid deaths would be in the unvaccinated population, if 100% were vaccinated then 100% of covid deaths would be in the vaccinated population. At the moment most countries are somewhere in-between 0% and 100% vaccination. As the virus mutates and the effectiveness of the vaccine subsides then in a population with a high, but old, coverage there would be an increasing death rate in the "vaccinated" population. At some point the number of deaths in the nominally vaccinated population would overtake those in the unvaccinated population, which is what both articles describe. Personally I don't think these articles are an endorsement for remaining unvaccinated but a call for people to be boosted and/ or take the bivalent vaccine which was specifically developed for omicron, although I have seen some reports suggesting that it isn't as effective against omicron as was anticipated.

In most countries taking the vaccine or not is now a personal choice and one that should perhaps be discussed with ones health advisor as there is a lot of spurious information floating about.
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The vaccine has never been mandated here in the UK
 
Eric Le Merde said:
In relation to these articles, both of which I agree with, there are some points to be considered.

1. The efficacy of the vaccine diminishes over time
2. There are variants of the virus emerging for which the vaccine wasn't specifically developed
3. Like all vaccines the covid vaccine doesn't give 100% protection

Additionally if 0% of the population was vaccinated then 100% of covid deaths would be in the unvaccinated population, if 100% were vaccinated then 100% of covid deaths would be in the vaccinated population. At the moment most countries are somewhere in-between 0% and 100% vaccination. As the virus mutates and the effectiveness of the vaccine subsides then in a population with a high, but old, coverage there would be an increasing death rate in the "vaccinated" population. At some point the number of deaths in the nominally vaccinated population would overtake those in the unvaccinated population, which is what both articles describe. Personally I don't think these articles are an endorsement for remaining unvaccinated but a call for people to be boosted and/ or take the bivalent vaccine which was specifically developed for omicron, although I have seen some reports suggesting that it isn't as effective against omicron as was anticipated.

In most countries taking the vaccine or not is now a personal choice and one that should perhaps be discussed with ones health advisor as there is a lot of spurious information floating about.
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I agree with you but latest mixed vaccine has only been tested on 8 mice before being pushed into the public domain.....the mice died
 
aberdude said:
I agree with you but latest mixed vaccine has only been tested on 8 mice before being pushed into the public domain.....the mice died
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So it killed 8 mice, but none of the recipients. Still , 42% of covid deaths comes from the unvaxxed. The odds are not in your favour.
 
He's fking nuts and so passionate about a vaccination it's surely not healthy for the mind......h3s gone all golem on his bill Gates products <laugh>

But he is precious I suppose
 
So half if we say, of all covid deaths come from the 20% of unvaxxed.
 
aberdude said:
He's fking nuts and so passionate about a vaccination it's surely not healthy for the mind......h3s gone all golem on his bill Gates products <laugh>

But he is precious I suppose
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You don’t understand the odds.
 
Peej said:
You don’t understand the odds.
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I've repeated the odds on a regular basis....its a 99 percent survival rate.

Now u took a vaccination on them odds.......so please who doesn't understand the odds....you or me.

By the way your goal posts have been moved so much the promises they gave were no more than a fingers crossed......first they said it would protect you and others then that was proved otherwise so it became it stops hospitalisation and death and that has also been proved a lie.
 
So all in all lads u got the same chances as me of catching covid yet you have the increased risk of other illnesses which have been caused by the vaccination.

Seems a sane decision that <laugh>
 
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