Coronavirus

[aberdude]

I could go on all day with this **** against the people you in such high regard.

https://goodlawproject.org/update/b...-existence-of-vip-lane-for-testing-contracts/

 

[Tobes]

Who's he ........so no fking clue you just want stuff you don't agree with gone

If you don’t understand what that means, all you had to do was ask, and definitely not btw. Alternative opinions are just that, opinions, people disagree on subjects that’s life. But demonstrable facts are just that facts, we live in an age where people seem to think that their alternative ‘facts’ have credence, they don’t.

 

[Tobes]

I could go on all day with this **** against the people you in such high regard.

https://goodlawproject.org/update/b...-existence-of-vip-lane-for-testing-contracts/

I help fund that organisation with a monthly payment ffs

 

[Treble]

https://goodlawproject.org/case/money-for-dominic-cummings-mates/

Failed on Grounds 1 and 2, but successful on Ground 3.

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Fck all will come of it though.

Thank fck the country voted for this lot to stick it to "the establishment"

 

[aberdude]

If you don’t understand what that means, all you had to do was ask, and definitely not btw. Alternative opinions are just that, opinions, people disagree on subjects that’s life. But demonstrable facts are just that facts, we live in an age where people seem to think that their alternative ‘facts’ have credence, they don’t.

I agree but who decides what is fact and what's not

 

[aberdude]

I help fund that organisation with a monthly payment ffs

Well done.......tell em in an email how much the poor who can't pay for justice appreciate people like them.

 

[Big Ern]

https://goodlawproject.org/case/money-for-dominic-cummings-mates/

We already said they'd do this well over a year ago. In fact the only thing you've got right are things already known, or suspected, to most on here before you ever mention it, then you act like you've delivered us some outstanding insight only known to 'truthers', despite most of it actually being in the MSM.

 

[aberdude]

We already said they'd do this well over a year ago. In fact the only thing you've got right are things already known, or suspected, to most on here before you ever mention it, then you act like you've delivered us some outstanding insight only known to 'truthers', despite most of it actually being in the MSM.

The inverted truth hey.......ew is like the mainstream fascists who claims anyone who protests have been hijacked by the far righ neo nazi group's

 

[aberdude]

Tell you what they could do to help up take is show us that crystal ball they got where they see no serious side effects from the vaccine in the next decade.

Anyways the BBC or is it cbbc these days, with the reading of its poor fking journalism is at an all time low....hotdogs work

5million strong

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58594542

 

[Peej]

Tell you what they could do to help up take is show us that crystal ball they got where they see no serious side effects from the vaccine in the next decade.

Anyways the BBC or is it cbbc these days, with the reading of its poor fking journalism is at an all time low....hotdogs work

5million strong

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58594542

At least 50,000 and rising in the uk (just this year) who refused a vaccination, well they wont have any side effects or being at risk of further covid infection.

 

[Treble]

So have ppl mentioned GP appointments on here?

How are folk about the number of GP appointments now being done over the phone or online?

I appreciate there's a backlog, but I can't help feeling the situation has been taken advantage of to set a new normal in which GP's will never go back to a majority of appointments being face to face.

They're also saying most ppl prefer it. Is this true?

What worries me is the delay in diagnosis and the mis-diagnosis which is already being evidenced. As someone who's experienced the harsh reality of this happening, especially with something like cancer, I can't help feeling a little fcked off at how surgeries seem to be brushing it off for what appears to be the sake of their own convenience.

 

[brb]

So have ppl mentioned GP appointments on here?

How are folk about the number of GP appointments now being done over the phone or online?

I appreciate there's a backlog, but I can't help feeling the situation has been taken advantage of to set a new normal in which GP's will never go back to a majority of appointments being face to face.

They're also saying most ppl prefer it. Is this true?

What worries me is the delay in diagnosis and the mis-diagnosis which is already being evidenced. As someone who's experienced the harsh reality of this happening, especially with something like cancer, I can't help feeling a little fcked off at how surgeries seem to be brushing this off for what appears to be the sake of their own convenience.

I've not had any problems with doctors appointments, consultant appointments, or hospital surgery, everyone of which I've had in the last three months. Not everyone has to see their GP, they know you, they know your history, you know all about your own conditions, everything is accessible online these days. I order prescriptions online and they go straight to my pharmacy. If I can't get hold of my doctor I send an online request. For me it's an improvement. I've heard the other stories, but like anything in life, I can only speak for my experience..

 

[Diego]

For them that doesn't understand how propaganda works......its for dummies so have a look peej it could come in useful the next time you are thinking of giving a treatment to your kid that he/she doesn't need

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Oh it's definitely aimed at those with weak minds and the internet is the perfect medium for it

 

[Treble]

I've not had any problems with doctors appointments, consultant appointments, or hospital surgery, everyone of which I've had in the last three months. Not everyone has to see their GP, they know you, they know your history, you know all about your own conditions, everything is accessible online these days. I order prescriptions online and they go straight to my pharmacy. If I can't get hold of my doctor I send an online request. For me it's an improvement. I've heard the other stories, but like anything in life, I can only speak for my experience..

I think pre-existing conditions I can understand. Previous records and where you've had a lot of involvement with the GP already have more scope to be done remotely. And repeat prescriptions have been online prior to the pandemic so that's no issue at all. It's the new symptoms and conditions that concern me. Especially when your previous records show no indicators of something new which could crop up.

I don't think remote appointments should be done away with. It's not a case of either, or. But I do think if we accept surgeries making these decisions unilaterally, without the patient being given the choice, it will lead to a slippery slope where people will no longer be individuals, but an algorithm on a computer screen. We've already lost a lot in terms of the social nature of GP face to face appointments over the last 20/30 years. This will be the final nail in the coffin. And some of the real life stories being reported where mistakes have already been made, GP surgeries seem to be shrugging their shoulders about it and saying it can't be helped. That I don't like.

 

[Diego]

I agree but who decides what is fact and what's not

4Chan

 

[brb]

Oh it's definitely aimed at those with weak minds and the internet is the perfect medium for it

I looked on Twitter earlier, it's full of doom mongers, the media has a lot to answer for, it's feeding them into a frenzy like sewer rats on the rampage. Doom, doom and more doom ffs.

 

[brb]

I think pre-existing conditions I can understand. Previous records and where you've had a lot of involvement with the GP already have more scope to be done remotely. And repeat prescriptions have been online prior to the pandemic so that's no issue at all. It's the new symptoms and conditions that concern me. Especially when your previous records show no indicators of something new which could crop up.

I don't think remote appointments should be done away with. It's not a case of either, or. But I do think if we accept surgeries making these decisions unilaterally, without the patient being given the choice, it will lead to a slippery slope where people will no longer be individuals, but a logarithm on a computer screen. We've already lost a lot in terms of the social nature of GP face to face appointments over the last 20/30 years. This will be the final nail in the coffin. And some of the real life stories being reported where mistakes have already been made, GP surgeries seem to be shrugging their shoulders about it and saying it can't be helped. That I don't like.

I'll be straight with you mate, I'm tired of the media negativity. Yes, there is always going to be cases of where things have gone wrong, but let's be honest here, if I wanted to see a GP, I'd make damn sure I'd saw one. They will never speak of the millions of appointments that were successful, they will only highlight the negative aspects and the law of averages will always have a percentage of sad outcomes.

 

[Treble]

I'll be straight with you mate, I'm tired of the media negativity. Yes, there is always going to be cases of where things have gone wrong, but let's be honest here, if I wanted to see a GP, I'd make damn sure I'd saw one. They will never speak of the millions of appointments that were successful, they will only highlight the negative aspects and the law of averages will always have a percentage of sad outcomes.

That's you though mate. I'm no doctor, neither are the vast majority of people. They suffer from an early symptom, they're troubled by it, talk to a GP over the phone or online, but will trust what the GP tells them. It's only when it becomes significantly worse, and at the point where the treatment will be far more severe (maybe even irreversible) that they might demand to see the GP. It's the nature of humans. By then it's too late and that's what's been happening. And tbph if there's "always going to be cases of where things go wrong" as a result of not seeing patients face to face then bollox to it, go back to face to face. Even one patient suffering or dying as a result of something avoidable is one too many. It's not a failed surgery or a procedure where you can go "these things happen", it's something they were doing before and could go back to.

 

[brb]

That's you though mate. I'm no doctor, neither are the vast majority of people. They suffer from an early symptom, they're troubled by it, talk to a GP over the phone or online, but will trust what the GP tells them. It's only when it becomes significantly worse, and at the point where the treatment will be far more severe (maybe even irreversible) that they might demand to see the GP. It's the nature of humans. That's what's happening. And tbph if there's "always going to be cases of where things go wrong" as a result of not seeing patients face to face then bollox to it, go back to face to face. Even one patient suffering or dying as a result of something avoidable is one too many. It's not a failed surgery or a procedure where you can go "these things happen", it's something they were doing before and could go back to.

I think you miss the fact that we are born to die mate and holding a doctor or a surgery to account by saying one avoidable death is one too many, is like holding the medical profession to ransom. It's like saying if you don't see that person who has a sniffle, they might die of pneumonia....no it's a sniffle. It just seems to me, people want to be negative about anything and everything, we are human, we are designed to make mistakes, now people might not like that, but it's reality. I don't like seeing deaths on the M25, so should we take all the cars off the road before someone else gets killed. Like I said, what about the millions of successful patient outcomes, nah people don't want to chat about them numbers. Crass maybe, but how much longer do you think you have to live, I'll be damn lucky if I see out another 10 years, so will lots of other people on this forum, it's called living and dying mate.

 

[brb]

Pull your finger out Trebs, you need to do better than this, we've got 20 more pages to go.