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it will take longer to get in the store than the clothes they buy last <laugh>

Thing is that entrance isn't even the main entrance to Primark, it's one of the many entrances to Bluewater itself, so the queue will be longer than the camera can see, madness. Primark is the building to the left of the neon sign.
 
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No ****, no one saw that coming.

Be surprised if it's not closer to a third when the actual facts come out.

People shot me down for saying that number's were being inflated at the start........old people left to die because they scored over the save them figures.......no resuscitation orders......list goes on.

excess death's yeah I believe em the lying fks.
 
People shot me down for saying that number's were being inflated at the start........old people left to die because they scored over the save them figures.......no resuscitation orders......list goes on.

excess death's yeah I believe em the lying fks.

You heard of confirmation bias, mate?
 
You heard of confirmation bias, mate?

I've heard tory lies all my life....no change there.

"And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed — if all records told the same tale — then the lie passed into history and became truth."

I can say or think what I like.......got an issue with that......not my problem.
 
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People shot me down for saying that number's were being inflated at the start........old people left to die because they scored over the save them figures.......no resuscitation orders......list goes on.

excess death's yeah I believe em the lying fks.
Only they’re not inflated, you’ve posted an article quoting the actual ONS figures you tit.
 
I've heard tory lies all my life....no change there.

"And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed — if all records told the same tale — then the lie passed into history and became truth."

I can say or think what I like.......got an issue with that......not my problem.

Yet you’re buying into a myth perpetuated by Tory supporters. Well done.
 
You missed out the word ‘recent’ and obvs didn’t actually read the article

Dying with the disease or from it.

Don’t subscribe to be able to see full article. Interesting how a positive spin can be put on that.
 
I've heard tory lies all my life....no change there.

"And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed — if all records told the same tale — then the lie passed into history and became truth."

I can say or think what I like.......got an issue with that......not my problem.

And I have heard as many Labour lies in my life also.

But a political party would never mislead or bend the truth......of to the glory days of the mid 90’s and all the truth and kept promises.
 
The actual facts are on the ONS site .

Yeah, dying with Covid not of it, which is the point.

Which we all kind of know that every one of the people within the much quoted 130k didn't actually die of Covid.

Unless you think they did, which is entirely up to you of course.

I'd like to hope (in vain) that at some point someone will issue statistics that show actual cause of death to be Covid.

Rather than this vague notion we've put up with for the last twelve months.
 
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Yeah, dying with Covid not of it, which is the point.

Which we all kind of know that every one of the people within the much quoted 130k didn't actually die of Covid.

Unless you think they did, which is entirely up to you of course.

I'd like to hope (in vain) that at some point someone will issue statistics that show actual cause of death to be Covid.

Rather than this vague notion we've put up with for the last twelve months.
The article he posted broke down the died of and with figures for the current year.
 
The article he posted broke down the died of and with figures for the current year.

I didn't read it all as I don't subscribe to the Telegraph. What the top section said was that a of the people said to have died with Covid, for a quarter of them it wasn't actual cause of death.

Which sounds reasonable enough as surely we all realise that 'died with' doesn't actually mean died of in every case?

Otherwise, they would state, died of.
 
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I didn't read it all as I don't subscribe to the Telegraph. What the top section said was that a of the people said to have died with Covid, for a quarter of them it wasn't actual cause of death.

Which sounds reasonable enough as surely we all realise that 'died with' doesn't actually mean died of in every case?

Otherwise, they would state, died of.
No, what the article said was that nearly a qtr of the most recent COVID deaths have been those who died with it, as opposed to off it. It then details that split for the current year, when the percentages were much smaller.

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If you look at that graph, back to week 9 it's clear that it's a similar percentage.

Going back further, the percentage is lower but it still exists.

The point I made in quoting the first link to the article, is that it's no surprise that the total number isn't all death by Covid.

And that, ultimately, it would be very interesting to find out what the actual numbers of death by Covid are, once they are known.
 
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Chief knows the score.......the likely lads are doing the usual running around crying looking for the holes in my words <laugh>
 
If you look at that graph, back to week 9 it's clear that it's a similar percentage.

Going back further, the percentage is lower but it still exists.

The point I made in quoting the first link to the article, is that it's no surprise that the total number isn't all death by Covid.

And that, ultimately, it would be very interesting to find out what the actual numbers of death by Covid are, once they are known.

I very much doubt we will ever get the correct figures dude.

Probably be easier to follow where all our money went but that will not happen in an independent inquiry it will be left too researched material by true journalists usually found in the conspiracy section.

The ministry of truth
 
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