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Don't think it'll happen. They won't make enough money without serving alcohol and bringing staff back from furlough. Be takeaway pints I reckon.

I'm 30 at the end of April so really hope they're open by then.

We’ll all chip in for a brass if not.
 
Don't think it'll happen. They won't make enough money without serving alcohol and bringing staff back from furlough. Be takeaway pints I reckon.

I'm 30 at the end of April so really hope they're open by then.

I agree. Most cheap food is subsidised I assume by over priced beer, with the exception of some well known chains.
 
Thought it was the reasonable margins on food keeping pubs alive. Once the tax and duty is taken out of a pint there’s not a lot left, hence the lack of non-food pubs.

I thought it was the opposite. Certain chains (not weatherspoons), that charge a fiver for a beer, outside of the City. Thus they then offer buy one get one free meals, knowing the revenue will come from the extra sale of drink, that comes with every meal sold. I think Marstons are one particular chain that operate like this.
 
Pubs definitely make their money from food. That's where the mark up is.

Obviously though, people won't go if they can't have a glass of booze with that food.
 
I thought it was the opposite. Certain chains (not weatherspoons), that charge a fiver for a beer, outside of the City. Thus they then offer buy one get one free meals, knowing the revenue will come from the extra sale of drink, that comes with every meal sold. I think Marstons are one particular chain that operate like this.
The mark up on food is far bigger than on the ale.

The margin on the ale depends on who owns the pub. Tenanted pubs get ripped off by the venture capitalists who own the premises by insisting that most of the ales on offer are bought via them, and they take a mark up, leaving the tenants with buttons if they’re to compete with the free houses or chain pubs local to them.
 
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The mark up on food is far bigger than on the ale.

The margin on the ale depends on who owns the pub. Tenanted pubs get ripped off by the venture capitalists who own the premises by insisting that most of the ales on offer are bought via them, and they take a mark up, leaving the tenants with buttons if they’re to compete with the free houses or chain pubs local to them.

Fair enough. Certain pubs I try to avoid, Marstons being one of them. They generally charge around a fiver for a beer in areas that in my mind don't justify it. I knew they did, what I would deem as cheap food, by that I mean offers such as buy one get one free. So I (wrongly) assumed, the drinks were subsidising the food. How any bang average pub can charge £5 for a pint and £3 (or whatever it is) for a coke is a pisstake, especially when prices are nigh on equivalent to in the City. Obviously I've not been in a pub for a year, so add a bit of inflation into those prices, but I'm sure you get my drift.
 
Fair enough. Certain pubs I try to avoid, Marstons being one of them. They generally charge around a fiver for a beer in areas that in my mind don't justify it. I knew they did, what I would deem as cheap food, by that I mean offers such as buy one get one free. So I (wrongly) assumed, the drinks were subsidising the food. How any bang average pub can charge £5 for a pint and £3 (or whatever it is) for a coke is a pisstake, especially when prices are nigh on equivalent to in the City. Obviously I've not been in a pub for a year, so add a bit of inflation into those prices, but I'm sure you get my drift.
I think Marstons pubs are all tenanted, so that kinda highlights the point. They’ll be having to charge the fiver to try and get an income out of the job. ****ing tough life trying to run a pub these days (before COVID) I know a few who’ve had a go and been mugged clean off by the pub co’s. I came within a whisker of buying a share of my local a few years back, not expecting to make any dosh, just to keep it going whilst not losing anything. Thank **** I swerved it.
 
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What you need is a sam smiths pub locally. One in a village near to me. Owner of chain, he banned motorcyclists going in to that one. Was lively, but owner banned jukeboxes in all his pubs, no sound even on fruit machine. Then mobiles and swearing banned.

was in a Sheffield City centre one a few years ago and this bloke just got up, told landlord to stop punters swearing. Landlord kept asking. 5 mins later bloke is up again, announces pub is shut, turns out it’s the owner of chain.
 
What you need is a sam smiths pub locally. One in a village near to me. Owner of chain, he banned motorcyclists going in to that one. Was lively, but owner banned jukeboxes in all his pubs, no sound even on fruit machine. Then mobiles and swearing banned.

was in a Sheffield City centre one a few years ago and this bloke just got up, told landlord to stop punters swearing. Landlord kept asking. 5 mins later bloke is up again, announces pub is shut, turns out it’s the owner of chain.

Hopefully the owner of these chains is aware he sells ****er juice for his profits, so makes you wonder why he expects behaviour that’s respectful......it’s not gonna happen boss
 
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What you need is a sam smiths pub locally. One in a village near to me. Owner of chain, he banned motorcyclists going in to that one. Was lively, but owner banned jukeboxes in all his pubs, no sound even on fruit machine. Then mobiles and swearing banned.

was in a Sheffield City centre one a few years ago and this bloke just got up, told landlord to stop punters swearing. Landlord kept asking. 5 mins later bloke is up again, announces pub is shut, turns out it’s the owner of chain.

Was talking about Sam Smiths pubs yesterday, coincidentally.

Friend of mine is planning a visit to Manchester, his young son is a City fan so they have tickets to take him to City's museum.

Apart from the obvious, in that's not much of a trip with **** all to see to be absolutely honest, I recommended the national football museum in town and Sinclairs Oyster bar, which is right outside and a Sam Smiths boozer.

Cheap as ****, decent ales.

There's one down in Cardiff bay too, randomly. Less then £2 a pint last time I went.
 
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I think Marstons pubs are all tenanted, so that kinda highlights the point. They’ll be having to charge the fiver to try and get an income out of the job. ****ing tough life trying to run a pub these days (before COVID) I know a few who’ve had a go and been mugged clean off by the pub co’s. I came within a whisker of buying a share of my local a few years back, not expecting to make any dosh, just to keep it going whilst not losing anything. Thank **** I swerved it.
The landlord in a local near me took over the pub that was closed.
He got it up and running and then offered Marstons £400,000 for the pub 5 years ago .
They told him he could have it for £750,000.
He said I cant make it work at that price so he is renting it from them .
If he leaves the pub will not be viable and the land isnt worth that amount
 
Was talking about Sam Smiths pubs yesterday, coincidentally.

Friend of mine is planning a visit to Manchester, his young son is a City fan so they have tickets to take him to City's museum.

Apart from the obvious, in that's not much of a trip with **** all to see to be absolutely honest, I recommended the national football museum in town and Sinclairs Oyster bar, which is right outside and a Sam Smiths boozer.

Cheap as ****, decent ales.

There's one down in Cardiff bay too, randomly. Less then £2 a pint last time I went.

If he can manage a gallon of their larger then he is a top drinker. is only about £2.75 for a pint of larger in that one local to me. People remeber it being £1.40 not so long ago.
 
Is this the Alcoholics Anonymous meet-up

alcohol related deaths rise during covid.........stoners happier during covid
 
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Is this the Alcoholics Anonymous meet-up

alcohol related deaths rise during covid.........stoners happier during covid

That's cos generally speaking drinkers are more social. Not saying all but that would generally ring true and stoners are more happy to sit in and blaze alone.

Alcohol is far more harmful too.
 
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That's cos generally speaking drinkers are more social. Not saying all but that would generally ring true and stoners are more happy to sit in and blaze alone.

Alcohol is far more harmful too.

And they do not understand Social Distancing when they have had 1 - 20 over the limit
 
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