Awful news this. John Lewis have done a superb job adapting to the new mixed retail age, and have been used as a template for how it can be achieved. Sad, sad times.
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Absolutely **** bag of a place. As is Cribbs causeway in Bristol, ****ing rubbish.
The St Davids one in Cardiff is actually alright and the reason for that is that it's actually in the city centre, not out of town. * edit, I don't think Intu 100% own that one though*
Things are changing. Out of town retail parks nearly killed off town centres and now on line shopping will hopefully kill off retail parks and behemoth malls.
Hopefully city centre shopping will then return, with cities and towns being redeveloped & people using trains and buses to get there. My experience of certain places is that this is already happening.
I think The Trafford Centre was part of the group, that went into administration, was it not?
I see Lakeside was also part of them. Good riddance to it! To the life of me, I could never understand why that place was built, close to one of the worst junctions of the M25, also tied in with a main route for trucks to Tilbury docks, if memory serves me correctly. Not saying there weren't some good retail outlets over there, but other than that it was a fooking hell hole to drive to, so much so I probably count on one hand, how many times I've been there in my lifetime. Bluewater ain't ideal either, but its far better than going to Lakeside imho, except at Christmas, avoid like the plague. Hopefully similar to Chief, I hope we see stuff coming back to the Centre of where people live, instead of these far flung driving nightmare places.
Really don't understand that at all. It's a decent place in itself to shop and eat and has a wide choice. Takes absolutely nothing away from Manchester city centre either. Piccadily, Deansgate, Northern Quarter and surrounding areas are heaving.
All that'll happen is an area of the city will become derelict and thousands will lose their jobs. You have nearby venues such as the Play factor and ski slope etc which may also suffer and the outdoor events that are regularly held on the site nearby losing custom as well. Can only see it as a sad loss.
As is Cribbs Causeway.
I agree that it has no effect on town as everything is in Manchester, always has been. Which is why I question it's existence as a whole to be honest. I suppose it takes the strain off the town parking though. Personally, I'd never go there instead of town.
That doesn't apply to other malls, some are in cities where the town centre itself is ****e and also the smaller satellite towns are dead as a result.
Hopefully they'll shut and boost the town centres. Those areas can then be redeveloped into something else, there's no reason why they would be just be left derelict.
I agree that it has no effect on town as everything is in Manchester, always has been. Which is why I question it's existence as a whole to be honest. I suppose it takes the strain off the town parking though. Personally, I'd never go there instead of town.
That doesn't apply to other malls, some are in cities where the town centre itself is ****e and also the smaller satellite towns are dead as a result.
Hopefully they'll shut and boost the town centres. Those areas can then be redeveloped into something else, there's no reason why they would be just be left derelict.
Didn't Aber flounce again cos he didnt need this place? Whys he back posting his trash.
He said he was having a month off to show that @brb wasn’t living rent free inside his head.......after brb said he couldn’t have a month away as he lived inside his head.........he lasted about 3 days
He said he was having a month off to show that @brb wasn’t living rent free inside his head.......after brb said he couldn’t have a month away as he lived inside his head.........he lasted about 3 days
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Bad day for Tubby.
Boots, J Lewis making thousands redundant, the lies about testing are even bigger than first thought, the Primadol scandal can't be suppressed anymore. There's probably more....
Boots, J Lewis making thousands redundant, the lies about testing are even bigger than first thought, the Primadol scandal can't be suppressed anymore. There's probably more....
I would hope so but here's the problem. In Sale which is pretty close to Trafford Centre it's an ok town centre, nice location, decent bars and restaurants and has a few brand name shops e.g. Boots, about 4 supermarkets including M&S foodhall. It's busy every weekend but I wouldn't go there to spend the day because there's not enough brand name shops. I'd do my weekly shop or go to a bar there or eat out, that's about it.
Down the road is Altrincham. All your brand names, some nice places to eat, decent bars, something for the kids. I could spend the day there.
Sale town centre is busy but for it to be a place where ppl want to spend their day, they'll need the big brand name shops opening up there. And I don't see that happening even if big Shopping Malls close down because they aren't going to pay the higher rates and rents to go in the town centre so Sale is going to stay the way it is.
I think these areas as well as the likes of Didsbury, Chorlton etc are relatively busy because they offer something the locals are attracted by. And I don't see the big brand names coming there or even being needed.
Btw I accept that may not be true in other parts of the country where local town centres have been wiped out by the shopping malls.
Those places can all get what they want in Manchester, the Trafford isn't actually 'needed'.
I just don't like the place, Manchester could definitely survive without it for the reasons you say, a lot of the outer satellites are quite 'chic'. That's how I see (or would like to) things going.
That's what it's like here, a couple of outer villages like Mumbles and Uplands are thriving. The city centre is an utter ****e hole, although it is being heavily redeveloped.
Cranes everywhere, always a good sign.
They can then raze the out of town shopping areas to the ground for me. Turn them to green spaces, whatever. How many supermarkets with a nearby home bargains does any place need?
There is no mall near here tbf, even if there was one it'd be half empty.
Manchester is probably a bad example in all this as it can carry all of the options off, it wants for nothing.
I just don't like the place, Manchester could definitely survive without it for the reasons you say, a lot of the outer satellites are quite 'chic'. That's how I see (or would like to) things going.
That's what it's like here, a couple of outer villages like Mumbles and Uplands are thriving. The city centre is an utter ****e hole, although it is being heavily redeveloped.
Cranes everywhere, always a good sign.
They can then raze the out of town shopping areas to the ground for me. Turn them to green spaces, whatever. How many supermarkets with a nearby home bargains does any place need?
There is no mall near here tbf, even if there was one it'd be half empty.
Manchester is probably a bad example in all this as it can carry all of the options off, it wants for nothing.
In my neck of the woods there are two shopping centres within 5 miles of each other, Lakeside and Bluewater. I think it’s fair to say they decimated towns such as Dartford, Gravesend and Strood on the Kent side.
The Good Law Project have instigated legal proceedings re: Cummings handing out hundreds of £M’s worth of Govt contracts to his old mates, without any form of tender process.
One to watch.
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