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I fear you're going off the point somewhat <laugh> OK forget the cardiac arrest, there are many other reasons someone may die with this coronavirus but not because of it.
No mate, it’s really you who’s missing the point here. Poorly patients who might have limited time left but would be finished off by coronavirus, still makes coronavirus the cause of death.
 
Not really no. A person with cardiac issues without coronavirus might have lived for years. The coronavirus would be the cause of their death.

I thought from memory there is a part 1 and 2 on the death certificate. For example my old fella died from respiratory failure with part 2 being the underlying Crohn's disease?
 
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I thought from memory there is a part 1 and 2 on the death certificate. For example my old fella died from respiratory failure with part 2 being the underlying Crohn's disease?
Yes, there’s the direct cause of death and then any underlying issues that may have contributed to it.
 
No mate, it’s really you who’s missing the point here. Poorly patients who might have limited time left but would be finished off by coronavirus, still makes coronavirus the cause of death.

I bet that's not what it will say on the death certificate :bandit: (don't say it, I know...)

What about head on collision in an RTA <whistle>
 
No mate, it’s really you who’s missing the point here. Poorly patients who might have limited time left but would be finished off by coronavirus, still makes coronavirus the cause of death.

That isn't always the case with cancer patients who catch a virus when they're too weak to fight it off though. At least not in terms of a death certificate.

Edit - should have read ahead.
 
I thought from memory there is a part 1 and 2 on the death certificate. For example my old fella died from respiratory failure with part 2 being the underlying Crohn's disease?

You could be right but that's certainly not what happened with my misses.
 
Not really no. A person with cardiac issues without coronavirus might have lived for years. The coronavirus would be the cause of their death.

That’s an assumption.

The virus could present them with mild and manageable symptoms, but they continue to shovel fatty, salty food down their neck in 12 weeks of isolation, which would ultimately be their undoing. The virus hasn’t affected this person’s fate, other than an assumption than he may have had one salad if he could get out to Pizza Hut.
 
It's Emirates all the way. Booked through online travel agent.

I’d imagine you’d be OK then, and even if one leg was cancelled I’d imagine they’d allow you to reschedule at the very least.

Been before btw?
 
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That isn't always the case with cancer patients who catch a virus when they're too weak to fight it off though. At least not in terms of a death certificate.

Edit - should have read ahead.

You're right, even if it's the treatment that causes the death, the cause is still the cancer.
 
I’d imagine you’d be OK then, and even if one leg was cancelled I’d imagine they’d allow you to reschedule at the very least.

Been before btw?

Once a while back. Fcking beautiful place. Did a lot of stuff out at sea. Indian Ocean is fcking brilliant imo.
 
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Once a while back. Fcking beautiful place. Did a lot of stuff out at sea. Indian Ocean is fcking brilliant imo.
Yeah agree love the Indian Ocean. I’ve been a couple of times to Mauritius, I noticed a big difference between my first and second visit in terms of change to the island and commercialisation. I first went 28 years ago and went back about 8 years ago iirc. The UAE hub has made that part of the world far more accessible, it used to be a 13 hr direct flight from Heathrow.
 
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I’m not a medical expert, I just remember what was old my old fellas death certificate?

Sorry I didn't mean to say I doubt that, if that's how it came across . Just I think it's different for different circumstances. The consultant told us beforehand what they would have to write on there. Great convo that was. Then afterwards, the coroner wanted to carry out a post-mortem before issuing the official cause, at which point I flipped at the consultant who then had to contact the coroner. Anyway I digress, it's all bollox and red tape.
 
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Sorry I didn't mean to say I doubt that, if that's how it came across . Just I think it's different for different circumstances. The consultant told us beforehand what they would have to write on there. Great convo that was. Then afterwards, the coroner wanted to carry out a post-mortem before issuing the official cause, at which point I flipped at the consultant who then had to contact the coroner. Anyway I digress, it's all bollox and red tape.

Sorry I was questioning your own experiences, I just remember a similar type conversation with a consultant who said that Crohn’s disease wouldn’t kill the old man, but as the underlying condition, it would have a major impact.
 
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Sorry I was questioning your own experiences, I just remember a similar type conversation with a consultant who said that Crohn’s disease wouldn’t kill the old man, but as the underlying condition, it would have a major impact.
That impact almost certainly being his weakened immunity caused by the Crohn’s. I suffer from something similar myself at the minute.
 
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Yeah agree love the Indian Ocean. I’ve been a couple of times to Mauritius, I noticed a big difference between my first and second visit in terms of change to the island and commercialisation. I first went 28 years ago and went back about 8 years ago iirc. The UAE hub has made that part of the world far more accessible, it used to be a 13 hr direct flight from Heathrow.

I went 7 years ago so probably well into the commercialised period that. Stayed on the south side of the island. Water was warm and lush. Scuba diving and kayaking was immense. The food and culture when you head up inland to the towns was great. We were lucky as fck as well because without realising it we were in the monsoon season but escaped it completely.
 
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