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I’m hoping that Sunak makes a major announcement about supporting company payrolls tomorrow.
As otherwise, there’s going to mass lay offs / redundancies after the month end.

Leaving aside the actual virus itself, the clinical view and the human cost of the thing. Make no mistake, this is now an economic crisis the like of which we’ve not seen in Peacetime. Having spent the week immersed in spreadsheets, cashflow forecasts and endless conference calls, I’ve not spoken to a single peer who isn’t resigned to having to letting people go in the coming days / weeks. The numbers are going to be absolutely astronomical, without a massive Govt intervention.

I was listening to caller after caller from the service/catering industry. What really drove things home was one person describing how this is not simply affecting your regular high street restaurants, pubs etc, it's decimating the businesses of michelin star chefs and well known eateries virtually overnight. It's a real leveller.

And what I've posted above I'm not doing it justice, the things I was listening to really drove it home. People being laid off in their masses already.
 
Just in case you can't read it;

Business, trade unions and senior Tories have urged Rishi Sunak swiftly to deliver a massive package of wage subsidies and tax cuts as the coronavirus pandemic threatens millions of jobs, with swaths of companies facing imminent ruin.

The chancellor is expected to announce “unprecedented” measures to support companies and their employees on Friday, in addition to this week’s promise of £20bn of direct support for business and a £330bn loan guarantee scheme.

Boris Johnson said he hoped Mr Sunak would have a “great package ready to go” and vowed that the government would prioritise help for those people worst affected, arguing that in the financial crisis of 2008 the banks appeared to have more state protection than ordinary workers.

Mr Johnson told companies: “Stand by your employees, stand by your workers, because we will stand by you.” So far, employers in the leisure and hospitality sectors — among the ones most exposed to the shutdown of social activities — have laid off more than 200,000 people with millions of others at risk.

Crisis talks in the Treasury between the chancellor and business and union leaders continued into Thursday evening, with participants saying that Mr Sunak was serious about setting up a scheme of wage subsidies. The chancellor acknowledged that the government was in a race against time to stop companies collapsing and hundreds of thousands of workers losing their jobs.

“A lot of businesses are hours, not days, away from collapse,” said one person present at the talks. “It’s critical that we get cash to them now.”

Mr Sunak is considering a range of radical options, including tax holidays for companies or reversing the pay-as-you-earn tax system so that the government picks up some or all of the wage bill for companies that keep on staff.

One person said that the meeting covered the possibility of deferring of PAYE, VAT and other taxes and the prospect of the government underwriting wages. Mr Sunak agreed that money had to get to the front line immediately.

“We are working around the clock to deliver further support to individuals and families whose jobs and incomes will be affected by Covid-19,” Mr Sunak said.

The chancellor’s earlier support package for business, notably the offer of loan guarantees, has been criticised by some Tory MPs as insufficient to persuade companies to retain workers as the virus bites.

Nothing about the self employed ?
 
Just in case you can't read it;

Business, trade unions and senior Tories have urged Rishi Sunak swiftly to deliver a massive package of wage subsidies and tax cuts as the coronavirus pandemic threatens millions of jobs, with swaths of companies facing imminent ruin.

The chancellor is expected to announce “unprecedented” measures to support companies and their employees on Friday, in addition to this week’s promise of £20bn of direct support for business and a £330bn loan guarantee scheme.

Boris Johnson said he hoped Mr Sunak would have a “great package ready to go” and vowed that the government would prioritise help for those people worst affected, arguing that in the financial crisis of 2008 the banks appeared to have more state protection than ordinary workers.

Mr Johnson told companies: “Stand by your employees, stand by your workers, because we will stand by you.” So far, employers in the leisure and hospitality sectors — among the ones most exposed to the shutdown of social activities — have laid off more than 200,000 people with millions of others at risk.

Crisis talks in the Treasury between the chancellor and business and union leaders continued into Thursday evening, with participants saying that Mr Sunak was serious about setting up a scheme of wage subsidies. The chancellor acknowledged that the government was in a race against time to stop companies collapsing and hundreds of thousands of workers losing their jobs.

“A lot of businesses are hours, not days, away from collapse,” said one person present at the talks. “It’s critical that we get cash to them now.”

Mr Sunak is considering a range of radical options, including tax holidays for companies or reversing the pay-as-you-earn tax system so that the government picks up some or all of the wage bill for companies that keep on staff.

One person said that the meeting covered the possibility of deferring of PAYE, VAT and other taxes and the prospect of the government underwriting wages. Mr Sunak agreed that money had to get to the front line immediately.

“We are working around the clock to deliver further support to individuals and families whose jobs and incomes will be affected by Covid-19,” Mr Sunak said.

The chancellor’s earlier support package for business, notably the offer of loan guarantees, has been criticised by some Tory MPs as insufficient to persuade companies to retain workers as the virus bites.

Looks like it’ll be a big announcement tomorrow then. Hope it’ll be a good enough decision!

Protecting jobs really is the key right now to stop a major economic crash and without help to cover wages companies will lay off staff.

I’ve had to do a lot of reassuring people about their jobs over the last couple of days and the right action tomorrow could make it far easier for me to do that without having to add caveats about how long this all lasts!
 
Your second part , yes it will get horrid . Lots of local independent shops / traders will have zero chance of recovery .

Now Clarke’s shoes have announced they are closing all shops .Not redundancies yet , closing for protective reasons , but it will end in tears unless the Govt do something massive and now .

Just been chatting to Treble on PM.

Said there that what is fear and anxiety in the masses at the moment will soon turn to frustration and anger if the Govt don't pull their finger out. When people's livelihoods start to crumble, they will take matters into their own hands.

I'm about a week away from cancelling all of my direct debits for Mortgage, Council Tax, Utility bills etc. If people do that on mass, they will have a ****ing huge mess to sort out.
 
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Seriously, we're talking of hundreds of billions being announced.

Why not keep it simple and allocate a large portion on Universal Basic Income. And the rest on supporting businesses stay afloat.
 
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Seriously, we're talking of hundreds of billions being announced.

Why not keep it simple and allocate a large portion on Universal Basic Income. And the rest on supporting businesses stay afloat.

Yep <applause>

Longer term this would eradicate the need for a benefits system too.
 
Looks like it’ll be a big announcement tomorrow then. Hope it’ll be a good enough decision!

Protecting jobs really is the key right now to stop a major economic crash and without help to cover wages companies will lay off staff.

I’ve had to do a lot of reassuring people about their jobs over the last couple of days and the right action tomorrow could make it far easier for me to do that without having to add caveats about how long this all lasts!
You work in recruitment / HR?
 
Yep <applause>

Longer term this would eradicate the need for a benefits system too.

I think as you mentioned before, this would also alleviate pressure for ppl having to make the choice between going into work and staying at home. It may not completely replace their income, but it may just be enough to survive for the foreseeable future.
 
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