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That part isn't true though mate. As we agree the candidate has to be jingoistic. The right wing would've torn Sanders to pieces. Agree though he was the best candidate but as we've said the Americans don't always see the best candidate.

Yes but I just think it's so staggering that it was specifically the lowest class areas that pushed Biden through, it isn't the poorest areas where Sanders consistently won, its the poorest areas that Sanders consistently LOSES in.
 
Liverpool’s humiliating exit from the CL suggests that they have been dominant in a poor league. In many ways the season ending early did them a favour as they were struggling to win a game.

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This, posted before that CL game is probably the most prophetic thing @astro has ever said...
#mustwin#quadruple or [HASHTAG]#seasonover[/HASHTAG]
 
It’s akin to working class northerners voting for Johnson and the Tories as they weren’t having Corbyn for whatever reason.

The downtrodden being persuaded to vote against what’s in their best interests is nothing new, and is driven by media grooming and gaslighting.

Agree to disagree. But I think it would be more accurate to describe it like this, how would it be possible for Jeremy Corbyn to lose the Labour leadership race at the first hurdle, and then the Labour voters complaining that their leader, lets say Yvette Cooper, isn't radical enough and too bland.

And then the next year they vote for Andy Burnham.
 
Yes but I just think it's so staggering that it was specifically the lowest class areas that pushed Biden through, it isn't the poorest areas where Sanders consistently won, its the poorest areas that Sanders consistently LOSES in.

But mate, why should the poorest areas be any different to the rest of the demographics who are just as gullible.

Fwiw I think whatever happens with the democrats, whoever they put forward, it will be their fault nobody else's if they end up losing in November. Nearly every candidate was either weak or simply not able to get their message out effectively enough in the primaries.
 
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Yes but I just think it's so staggering that it was specifically the lowest class areas that pushed Biden through, it isn't the poorest areas where Sanders consistently won, its the poorest areas that Sanders consistently LOSES in.
Ever thought that it’s possible that the most deprived areas just want a democrat and to see the back of the orange lunatic, and took a pragmatic view on Sanders given his age, health and his baggage, and how that’d have played out in a head to head with Trump?

Whereas the more affluent areas can afford to be more idealistic as is not as desperate for them?
 
Ever thought that it’s possible that the most deprived areas just want a democrat and to see the back of the orange lunatic, and took a pragmatic view on Sanders given his age, health and his baggage, and how that’d have played out in a head to head with Trump?

Whereas the more affluent areas can afford to be more idealistic as is not as desperate for them?

Sanders is 78 Biden is 77.

Like @brb I am bored of this myself, I don't even live there so they can do as they want tbh. But I do stand by my point, as I'm sure you stand by yours.
 
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