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Christ it's near beautiful out there :(


And I ****ed up my days so not getting my boy until tomorrow. May as well tuck into that halfy then.
 
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Well its defo a lot more than 3,000 that's for sure

... I don't doubt that ... but we are often quick to cast doubt on "official' figures from China or Russia whilst 'trusting' that what we get fed by our own government is always accurate and not manipulated ...

Here is the thing ... the population of Wuhan is around 11 million ... London is 9 million ... they reacted to the initial outbreak much quicker than we did in terms of building a dedicated hospital and introducing total lockdown ... so if 42k have really died there then we are destined for at least that many and just in our capital city ... they were also a lot quicker with ventilators and PPE ...
 
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... I don't doubt that ... but we are often quick to cast doubt on "official' figures from China or Russia whilst 'trusting' that what we get fed by our own government is always accurate and not manipulated ...

Here is the thing ... the population of Wigan is around 11 million ... London is 9 million ... they reacted to the initial outbreak much quicker than we did in terms of building a dedicated hospital and introducing total lockdown ... so if 42k have really died there then we are destined for at least that many and just in our capital city ... they were also a lot quicker with ventilators and PPE ...
I'm certain that there will be plenty here that dont die in hospital that wont be counted in the official figures !
Probably in the 1000s not hundreds :emoticon-0106-cryin
 
Oh dear :emoticon-0136-giggl


The EU is stumbling through this crisis as it has done through previous ones like the migration and the financial crises. The bloc is not about to disintegrate but scars will remain in countries that felt the chilly absence of EU solidarity in their hour of coronavirus need.

"This has not been our finest moment," a diplomat from an influential EU country told me. "Our response has come late and has been marred by nationalism. Solidarity went out the window with the first coronavirus victim."

The diplomat spoke of France and Germany's initial refusal to export medical protective equipment, meaning Italy was forced to beg for some.

He complained of the damage done to the whole of the single market as EU countries shut borders with one another in an attempt to protect themselves from the spread of the virus.

Then there's the recent ugly and very public debate about coronavirus debt-sharing. Spain and Italy demanded it, in the forms of coronabonds. Wealthier, cautious Germany and the Netherlands gave a flat no.

Again, each country prioritised national concerns over the EU as a whole. Understandable, but hardly a poster child for European cohesion.


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... I don't doubt that ... but we are often quick to cast doubt on "official' figures from China or Russia whilst 'trusting' that what we get fed by our own government is always accurate and not manipulated ...

Here is the thing ... the population of Wigan is around 11 million ... London is 9 million ... they reacted to the initial outbreak much quicker than we did in terms of building a dedicated hospital and introducing total lockdown ... so if 42k have really died there then we are destined for at least that many and just in our capital city ... they were also a lot quicker with ventilators and PPE ...

Pretty sure the population of Wigan is less than 11 million mate <whistle>
 
... I don't doubt that ... but we are often quick to cast doubt on "official' figures from China or Russia whilst 'trusting' that what we get fed by our own government is always accurate and not manipulated ...

Here is the thing ... the population of Wigan is around 11 million ... London is 9 million ... they reacted to the initial outbreak much quicker than we did in terms of building a dedicated hospital and introducing total lockdown ... so if 42k have really died there then we are destined for at least that many and just in our capital city ... they were also a lot quicker with ventilators and PPE ...

Genuine question ... how on earth can Wigan have 11 million people?
London in the most populated city in the UK.
 
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