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I wonder once this virus nears the end of its peak, which country will be the bravest or most stupidist to lift their airline restrictions first. I know for sure I certainly wouldn't want to be seeing any flights coming in from New York....difficult times and challenges ahead, it makes me wonder to how much this will change the world and how we travel. Hopefully if one lesson is learned from this, close your borders and restrict movement quicker next time, but hindsight is a wonderful thing, and I'm sure the stupidity of the human race will carry on blindly once again.
 
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A song that is very fitting in the current climate, and probably one of the first songs I ever heard as a very young child from acoustic tuition perspective, and Ralph McTell makes that point (tuition) at the end of the video...

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What's happening with the homeless during these curfews? We have many in the city centre here in York, but they have nobody to beg from now.
 
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I wonder once this virus nears the end of its peak, which country will be the bravest or most stupidist to lift their airline restrictions first. I know for sure I certainly wouldn't want to be seeing any flights coming in from New York....difficult times and challenges ahead, it makes me wonder to how much this will change the world and how we travel. Hopefully if one lesson is learned from this, close your borders and restrict movement quicker next time, but hindsight is a wonderful thing, and I'm sure the stupidity of the human race will carry on blindly once again.

I wonder what's to stop this happening again a year, two years from now with a new virus that doesn't have a vaccine.

And what we could possibly do to stop the country being shut down again. It's been a real eye-opener.
 
What's happening with the homeless during these curfews? We have many in the city centre here in York, but they have nobody to beg from now.

Not much mate.

Also note Shelter have said that every time someone displayed symptoms the whole residence had to be turfed out onto the streets.

I imagine that became automatic after the lockdown and social distancing came into effect on Monday.
 
Not much mate.

Also note Shelter have said that every time someone displayed symptoms the whole residence had to be turfed out onto the streets.

I imagine that became automatic after the lockdown and social distancing came into effect on Monday.

Jeez.
 
A total of 3,434 coronavirus patients have now died in Spain - more than the recorded number of deaths in China where the outbreak began.

Spain now has the world's second-highest tally of COVID 19 deaths after Italy.
I suspect China went on a massive testing spree and found lots of infected people who were showing no symptoms or mild ones that wouldn't be discovered here. And I'm noit counting on China to be open and honest with their figures either.
 

A good article by CNN

"You are three times more likely to have severe respiratory problems if you are homeless and the average age of death if you are homeless is 44," he adds.

McNeil believes the UK's homelessness crisis has been exacerbated by austerity measures. "Homeless people have been affected because of the reduction in funding for local authorities, so local support had to close down," she says.

Anecdotally, this seems to be the case, according to Downie. "In some areas, people have been told by their local councils that there is no help available." In the context of coronavirus, the combination of an increased demand for services and, as with food banks, a hit on the volunteer network has created a nightmare scenario.

And in a stark reminder of how serious this situation is, Downie adds: "If there is a report of an outbreak in a shelter then obviously it will have to shut, meaning we will see more people sleeping rough."
The challenges facing these vulnerable members of society are nothing new. Campaigners hope that this crisis will at least shine a light on the plight of those in poverty and without homes.

"This coronavirus exposes the cracks in society -- those who have mortgages and regular income could suddenly find themselves facing the same problems as people who are on benefits," says Sahota.

McNeil points out that people who are used to enjoying a secure income might find themselves relying on the state. And she thinks that the government might have to make these benefits more generous, given the sudden influx of people who are used to a certain way of living.
 
I wonder what's to stop this happening again a year, two years from now with a new virus that doesn't have a vaccine.

And what we could possibly do to stop the country being shut down again. It's been a real eye-opener.

Some positives have come from this; It's taught us as I always suspected, that not every person needs to see a doctor face to face, there are many things that can be resolved online and over the telephone that can ease the pressures. Not everyone needs to be commuting everyday, and with increased populations and worries of pollution, we can be more Green. Hong Kong proved that kids can be taught from home in a crisis, with the teacher helping the kids interactively. We need to look at our distribution networks and how to ease the burden in a future crisis. We learned spending poorly on the NHS will cost lives later and bankrupt the economy. So many lessons, but will we learn from them, I doubt it.
 
Some positives have come from this; It's taught us as I always suspected, that not every person needs to see a doctor face to face, there are many things that can be resolved online and over the telephone that can ease the pressures. Not everyone needs to be commuting everyday, and with increased populations and worries of pollution, we can be more Green. Hong Kong proved that kids can be taught from home in a crisis, with the teacher helping the kids interactively. We need to look at our distribution networks and how to ease the burden in a future crisis. We learned spending poorly on the NHS will cost lives later and bankrupt the economy. So many lessons, but will we learn from them, I doubt it.

Agree with that. And the sweet irony of what you say about not funding the NHS could end up bankrupting the economy.

Only thing I'm not sure about is seeing the doctor face to face. Speak with a GP about how the public have responded to not getting appointments or having to do things over the phone. They are getting dogs abuse from some right fcking tards. Probably the same morons that raid supermarkets for bog rolls.
 
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I can tell you're a git because you refer to your county while the rest of us talk about our local town or city.

The only other poster who talks about 'county' is Sucky but usually followed by the word 'lines' and a trip to Skegness.

Actually, **** wipe, I used county because 1 I dont know the Finnish word and 2 you'd know what I mean <laugh>
Besides, they have not locked down a local town or city you gobsheen have they, the whole goddamned county is locked down.. maaaaannn :D I'm free to travel within the county infecting everyone I meet
 
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Agree with that. And the sweet irony of what you say about not funding the NHS could end up bankrupting the economy.

Only thing I'm not sure about is seeing the doctor face to face. Speak with a GP about how the public have responded to not getting appointments or having to do things over the phone. They are getting dogs abuse from some right fcking tards. Probably the same morons that raid supermarkets for bog rolls.

The only reason a person should need to see a doctor is for a diagnosis. Once that diagnosis is done, there is not a lot else a doctor can do for a person, unless they think the doctor has some magic wand to make them better. The outcome will be a referral or a prescription, so once the initial stage is done, returning for another prescription or chasing a referral is pointless, it can be done online or over the telephone, turning up to a surgery is not going to make things happen any quicker. Yes, there are times when that initial face to face has to be done, but a doctor is not there to hold your hand thereafter.
 
Actually, **** wipe, I used county because 1 I dont know the Finnish word and 2 you'd know what I mean <laugh>
Besides, they have not locked down a local town or city you gobsheen have they, the whole goddamned county is locked down.. maaaaannn :D I'm free to travel within the county infecting everyone I meet

Ok... as you were <whistle>:bandit:
 
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The only reason a person should need to see a doctor is for a diagnosis. Once that diagnosis is done, there is not a lot else a doctor can do for a person, unless they think the doctor has some magic wand to make them better. The outcome will be a referral or a prescription, so once the initial stage is done, returning for another prescription or chasing a referral is pointless, it can be done online or over the telephone, turning up to a surgery is not going to make things happen any quicker. Yes, there are times when that initial face to face has to be done, but a doctor is not there to hold your hand thereafter.

You'd just think people would understand a little bit given the circumstances. A GP (who is a parent of a child I tutor... online now) was telling me yesterday that she had, had a **** day for the crap she was getting. She said something like "Why can't they understand that physiotherapy is not the biggest priority right now" <laugh> and another reason was sick notes. I think there's been some instruction not to issue them and people were giving her grief over it. The impression I got was none of it was pressing or urgent issues.
 
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You'd just think people would understand a little bit given the circumstances. A GP (who is a parent of a child I tutor... online now) was telling me yesterday that she had, had a **** day for the crap she was getting. She said something like "Why can't they understand that physiotherapy is not the biggest priority right now" <laugh> and another reason was sick notes. I think there's been some instruction not to issue them and people were giving her grief over it. The impression I got was none of it was pressing or urgent issues.

The simple answer is that most people are ****s.
 
Some positives have come from this; It's taught us as I always suspected, that not every person needs to see a doctor face to face, there are many things that can be resolved online and over the telephone that can ease the pressures. Not everyone needs to be commuting everyday, and with increased populations and worries of pollution, we can be more Green. Hong Kong proved that kids can be taught from home in a crisis, with the teacher helping the kids interactively. We need to look at our distribution networks and how to ease the burden in a future crisis. We learned spending poorly on the NHS will cost lives later and bankrupt the economy. So many lessons, but will we learn from them, I doubt it.


I honestly hope Boris learns from this , and honestly his and successive governments no matter what leadership , start funding and continue to do so the NHS .

And by funding I mean Properly .

oh and Appreciate them .

Doubt it will happen though .
 
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