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Boris...

  • should completely lock us down immediately and fook up all our Christmas'

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • let the bodies stack high

    Votes: 13 54.2%

  • lock us down from the 29th to fook up Treble's plans

    Votes: 8 33.3%
  • Total voters
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Treble said:
Seriously? I just took that for granted! Surely part of what vaccines do is prevent you getting it and becoming infectious.
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From https://www.sciencenews.org/article...s-questions-social-distance-mask-transmission

Can you still get infected, and infect others, if you get vaccinated?
Possibly. None of the vaccines tested so far have been 100 percent effective so some vaccinated people may still catch the coronavirus.

What’s more, neither the Pfizer nor the Moderna vaccine trials tested whether the vaccines prevent people from being infected with the virus. Those trials, instead, focused on whether people were shielded from developing disease symptoms. That means that it’s not clear whether vaccinated people could still develop asymptomatic infections — and thus still be able to spread the virus to others.

In both trials, some people who got the vaccine did get sick with COVID-19, but not as sick as those who got placebos. One vaccine recipient became severely ill in the Pfizer study compared with nine in the placebo group (SN: 11/18/20). No one who got the Moderna vaccine became severely ill, while 30 people who got the placebo developed severe disease (SN: 11/30/20).
 
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Coronavirus is right wing?

Didn't know that, fair play.

Congratulations to the Labour Party though for finding the vaccine and that, bravo.
 
Chief said:
Coronavirus is right wing?

Didn't know that, fair play.

Congratulations to the Labour Party though for finding the vaccine and that, bravo.
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It’s not really my fault if you insist on being an obtuse old git about it. I just stated one big factor in why it’s necessary to repeat the messaging even if it is boring and you personally don’t need to be reminded.
 
West WindsR said:
It’s not really my fault if you insist on being an obtuse old git about it. I just stated one big factor in why it’s necessary to repeat the messaging even if it is boring and you personally don’t need to be reminded.
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I don't need reminding, no.

I'm not really that interested in anything you've got to say tbf.

I'm sure Archie is around somewhere so you can jointly put your this is all the Tories fault slant on things, but I was merely making an observation on how the media is portraying this and speaking to someone else about the vaccine, without bringing any politics into it.

Cheers though.
 
Chief said:
I don't need reminding, no.

I'm not really that interested in anything you've got to say tbf.

I'm sure Archie is around somewhere so you can jointly put your this is all the Tories fault slant on things, but I was merely making an observation on how the media is portraying this and speaking to someone else about the vaccine, without bringing any politics into it.

Cheers though.
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As long as we’re aligned that it’s all the Tories’ fault that’s fine.
 
Chief said:
Not really sure why everyone needs to be vaccinated?

When it's patently obvious that the vast majority of people are unaffected by this anyway. Which has always been the case.

Vaccinate shielders, NHS workers, the elderly and front line teachers etc. There should be enough to go round if they target those who actually need it.
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80% of the vulnerable should be enough to get back to some sort of normal.

I don't think it'll ever completely go away.
 
Solid_Air 2 said:
From https://www.sciencenews.org/article...s-questions-social-distance-mask-transmission

Can you still get infected, and infect others, if you get vaccinated?
Possibly. None of the vaccines tested so far have been 100 percent effective so some vaccinated people may still catch the coronavirus.

What’s more, neither the Pfizer nor the Moderna vaccine trials tested whether the vaccines prevent people from being infected with the virus. Those trials, instead, focused on whether people were shielded from developing disease symptoms. That means that it’s not clear whether vaccinated people could still develop asymptomatic infections — and thus still be able to spread the virus to others.

In both trials, some people who got the vaccine did get sick with COVID-19, but not as sick as those who got placebos. One vaccine recipient became severely ill in the Pfizer study compared with nine in the placebo group (SN: 11/18/20). No one who got the Moderna vaccine became severely ill, while 30 people who got the placebo developed severe disease (SN: 11/30/20).
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Interesting. I always thought a vaccine offers an immune response. As sad as this may seem I've just gone and read up on the CDC about wtf a vaccine actually is. It seems there are 3 types which fight viruses, but they all talk of providing an immune response so I'm even more confused. Which is even worse considering the fact I did my degree in Biochemistry. I'm glad (and I'm sure the world will be) that I didn't pursue a career in it :bandit:
 
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Chief said:
I don't need reminding, no.

I'm not really that interested in anything you've got to say tbf.

I'm sure Archie is around somewhere so you can jointly put your this is all the Tories fault slant on things, but I was merely making an observation on how the media is portraying this and speaking to someone else about the vaccine, without bringing any politics into it.

Cheers though.
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Really? You’re dragging me into this?

<laugh> Quit windmilling ffs. It’s embarrassing
 
Treble said:
Interesting. I always thought a vaccine offers an immune response. As sad as this may seem I've just gone and read up on the CDC about wtf a vaccine actually is. It seems there are 3 types which fight viruses, but they all talk of providing an immune response so I'm even more confused. Which is even worse considering the fact I did my degree in Biochemistry. I'm glad (and I'm sure the world will be) that I didn't pursue a career in it :bandit:
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my simplistic understanding is your immune system will "attack" the invading virus but it may not stop you being infected as though it limits the amount of virus cells you have and therefore limiting the effects you may still have enough virus load to be infectious .

PS I have a degree in blagging :bandit:
 
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Quesadaad said:
Saw that this morning. Brilliant news.
Not sure how spacing the jabs out by twelve weeks will work though. Our lass is due her second dose of the Pfizer one next Thursday. Nice piece of mind knowing she’s had it.
Probably a very simplistic outlook, but could those who are currently unable to work (hospitality etc) be enrolled into the vaccination programme to help administer the injections?
If we have millions of doses ready to go, let’s get them out there into the community. I reckon a lot of people would gladly help out while they are unable to work.
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My understanding is that experts argue that most of the immunity comes from the first jab, so it would be better to give as many as they can the first dose before doing the second.
 
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