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Roll up roll up, yeah like no one saw this **** coming Tori£s.
If you dont actually go to work and dont have kids who go to school or work its easy to just say "muh conspiracy"
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...-tugendhat-tories_uk_5fad5e8fc5b635e9de9fe488
Tom Tugendhat tells HuffPost UK that if there is a coronavirus vaccine then rejecting it "is going to have consequences".
If you dont actually go to work and dont have kids who go to school or work its easy to just say "muh conspiracy"
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...-tugendhat-tories_uk_5fad5e8fc5b635e9de9fe488
Tom Tugendhat tells HuffPost UK that if there is a coronavirus vaccine then rejecting it "is going to have consequences".
Where does the £’s come into it? Given that the NHS / U.K. Govt will be paying for it, and the only current viable vaccine is being produced by an American Pharma?
He’s a dick anyway btw, and he’s talking in hypotheticals.
This is what a lockdown and compulsory mask wearing did in Victoria. Stage 4 lockdown started 2nd Aug.Well its not just COVID, any virus in your mask will increase your exposure to more viral load and more bacteria will congregate there
here many wearing their own masks, some knittedCotton single layer masks or worse, knitted ones dont even stop the aerosols and create a disgusting breeding ground for bacteria and COVID, and its moist on the outside too meaning you only have to touch that spot of the mask on the outside that is moist and COVID will happily move through the mask in a nice little nursery for its replicated offspring.
If sick people wear masks, there is no reason for non sick people to wear them. You just cannot bank on people not touching their masks, and that's exactly what is happening.
WHO in April 2020
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The bottom bit about the warning re medical staff, those are better 2 layer masks, most of the public are using a haphazard mix of all sorts of ineffective masks that get wet on the outside from use, you dont need to touch under the mask.
I'd say contact spreading, surfaces and person to person, ie shops, public transport, things like that.
fyi the rate of healthy people dying out of total estimates cases globally.. about 0.00000something %, not worked it out, but it's lotto win type odds
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Currently Victoria has just recorded 15 days with no new infections or deaths.
Re vaccines...
1. They have reduced a 10 (ten) year proccess for development, testing and giving safety certificates for medicines into an 11 month process for this.
Therefore this is naturally going to be a worry regarding long term effects.
So it up to INDEPENDENT scientists, (not those employed by the companies making and marketing them) to make a case regarding the safety of the vaccine.
The Chief medical officer saying he would absolutely recommend it for his elderly mother was a good thing imho.
2. There is a world of difference between the anti vaccinators and those concerned with this vaccine.
Those slagging off the MMR (for example) ignore sound evidence from independent medical experts and (imho) spread bollocks based on disproven theories. Those worried about how quickly this has been done need reassuring not threats.
3. People confusing the two are going to cause enormous problems ... I have concerns about cutting corners...having a version of thalidomide would not help matters...and imo caution is natural...so if Piers Morgan and co can not understand the difference between concern and conspiracy, then they should STFU.
4. I have concerns about the safety of the vaccine due to the massive shortening of the usual 10 year period to ensure safety.
Those MPs and celebs slagging me off can **** off and do one. I have worked throughout ... at times walking 5 miles to and from work. Those ****s have done **** all so should **** right off.
Rant over.
1. They have reduced a 10 (ten) year proccess for development, testing and giving safety certificates for medicines into an 11 month process for this.
Therefore this is naturally going to be a worry regarding long term effects.
So it up to INDEPENDENT scientists, (not those employed by the companies making and marketing them) to make a case regarding the safety of the vaccine.
The Chief medical officer saying he would absolutely recommend it for his elderly mother was a good thing imho.
2. There is a world of difference between the anti vaccinators and those concerned with this vaccine.
Those slagging off the MMR (for example) ignore sound evidence from independent medical experts and (imho) spread bollocks based on disproven theories. Those worried about how quickly this has been done need reassuring not threats.
3. People confusing the two are going to cause enormous problems ... I have concerns about cutting corners...having a version of thalidomide would not help matters...and imo caution is natural...so if Piers Morgan and co can not understand the difference between concern and conspiracy, then they should STFU.
4. I have concerns about the safety of the vaccine due to the massive shortening of the usual 10 year period to ensure safety.
Those MPs and celebs slagging me off can **** off and do one. I have worked throughout ... at times walking 5 miles to and from work. Those ****s have done **** all so should **** right off.
Rant over.
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Good post. I've no interest in having this vaccine for the reasons you state, perhaps I'd be different if I was classed as at increased risk but I'm not. Happy to wait it out and see how it goes.
Certainly not an anti-vaxxer though, and I think you're right that the distinction needs to be made. Ultimately, I can't see how you can know much about potential long term effects when it's been produced in less than a year.
I don't buy this bollocks about it being made mandatory for work places or hospitality venues. Scare mongering at its worst.
Well said, especially points 3 & 4.
Doesn't just apply to 'celebs' by the way.
Labour are now demanding that the Government introduces new laws to prevent social media from allowing people to talk about their worries about the vaccine.
Go Labour, the party of the people
**** free speech
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...out-anti-vax-content-on-social-media-12132887
Labour are now demanding that the Government introduces new laws to prevent social media from allowing people to talk about their worries about the vaccine.
Go Labour, the party of the people
**** free speech
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...out-anti-vax-content-on-social-media-12132887
Thate nice mate. Oh wait I couldn't give a ****.
Labour are now demanding that the Government introduces new laws to prevent social media from allowing people to talk about their worries about the vaccine.
Go Labour, the party of the people
**** free speech
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...out-anti-vax-content-on-social-media-12132887
No one is going to stop you posting anti-vax stuff on Mumsnet you old tart.
Labour are now demanding that the Government introduces new laws to prevent social media from allowing people to talk about their worries about the vaccine.
Go Labour, the party of the people
**** free speech
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...out-anti-vax-content-on-social-media-12132887
The article talks about removing false information and anti vax propaganda by fining companies and de-moniterising contents. I didn't see anything about stopping people discussing their worries.
There is a difference between the
anti vaxers and those worried about this.
The shadow health secretary has said exactly the same.
But let's not let the facts get in the way of unwarranted outrage... which is quite ironic given what we're talking about.
From a personal point of view, I just dont feel I need it immediately. Or my family.
Pretty sure I'm not at the top of the queue anyway so it's not that relevant.
I don't doubt that there are plenty of people can't wait for this so they can get back to some normality, and I would hardly blame them for that. They can assess whatever risk there is for themselves.
I'm not shouting to have it straightway though, at all.
Pretty sure I'm not at the top of the queue anyway so it's not that relevant.
I don't doubt that there are plenty of people can't wait for this so they can get back to some normality, and I would hardly blame them for that. They can assess whatever risk there is for themselves.
I'm not shouting to have it straightway though, at all.
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