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There's no need to get rattled, darling. Try breaking down where you think I was mistaken, address the point I made, don't just say "oh, that's tired" because it's not a proper response to what I said. I know you think you're intelligent but you're not doing a very good job of demonstrating it, especially when trying to downplay the impact of untold millions of migrants on house prices in the UK. Most people accept that as a fairly obvious point when discussing the availability and affordability of homes, old bean, much as they do when denizens of Dordogneshire whinge about British retirees ramping up the prices of property in the region in which their own ancestors have lived for millennia.

Here’s some advice, if you want a reasoned debate on the impact of immigration on housing stock in the U.K. then framing all immigrants as ‘ethnically and culturally alien’ isn’t conducive to starting said debate.

You can **** off now.
 
There's no need to get rattled, darling. Try breaking down where you think I was mistaken, address the point I made, don't just say "oh, that's tired" because it's not a proper response to what I said. I know you think you're intelligent but you're not doing a very good job of demonstrating it, especially when trying to downplay the impact of untold millions of migrants on house prices in the UK. Most people accept that as a fairly obvious point when discussing the availability and affordability of homes, old bean, much as they do when denizens of Dordogneshire whinge about British retirees ramping up the prices of property in the region in which their own ancestors have lived for millennia.

U be waisting time on Tobes dude ........in one ear out the other, its only he who knows everything.......stay around and you shall see.
Imagine a painting but in the 21st century. Might be tricky if the technology hasn't reached you yet in the valleys.

The old uns are the best.... just like that.... U got a giggle from me.
 
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If new-build homes looked like these (actually a retirement home in Hull) then people would actually have pleasant places to live. Inviting millions of ethnically and culturally-alien people into the country to support an absurd property bubble and then stacking them on top of one-another in ****ty, inflammable brutalist tower blocks is not conducive to a healthy society.

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Back on your anti foreign sentiment I see !
You need to stick to GC you will garner a lot more back slapping on there I believe :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
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WTF you on about bro?

I've never seen Wales as an expensive place to live. If I was to up sticks and move to Wales, I'd get far more for my money or have change left over. It's not the fault of the English if the Welsh are happy to take our brass.

Didn't @Chief move into Wales from England, there you go bruv, have a chat with him and ask how he managed it, but the Welsh kids can't. Maybe because the English kids get their arses ripped when they buy properties in England, but the English can play the advantage when we sell, and move to, guess where, I hear the Mumbles area is supposed to be a nice part of our lovely UK...<whistle>



Didn't really pan out like that as what I did was go to South Wales for work/college/work and spend nearly the first decade living in shared house/bedsits/rented flats, like most people do as they grow up etc.

Then I bought my first house, did exceptionally well out of it (pure luck), cleared debt, bought another, had one kid, moved into bigger one, had a couple more kids, and here I stay.

Can't deny, where I live would be upwards of an extra £200k for, say, a Manchester equivalent in an equivalent area, but it's hardly like I've moved into a nice rural village and forced the locals out. I live in a nice part of a city.

A city where there is absolute **** loads of affordable housing, to both locals and incomers, in a variety of suburbs, from utter ****eholes to affluent areas, depending on your budget.

FWIW, I've an idea of where about Aberdude lives roughly and it's the same; a mixture of dog **** holes and nice areas; there are places to find that you can buy if you have a job, I would surmise.

No expert though, obvs.

Ergo and to sum up, i'm absolutely **** all to do with causing a price rise in Wales meaning 'locals' can't afford to buy a house (once you've been to Uni somewhere, stayed, and lived there for 20+ years you are a local, surely), but at the same time I don't agree or disagree with either of the two protagonists in this argument.

I'm on the fence chaps.

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Didn't really pan out like that as what I did was go to South Wales for work/college/work and spend nearly the first decade living in shared house/bedsits/rented flats, like most people do as they grow up etc.

Then I bought my first house, did exceptionally well out of it (pure luck), cleared debt, bought another, had one kid, moved into bigger one, had a couple more kids, and here I stay.

Can't deny, where I live would be upwards of an extra £200k for, say, a Manchester equivalent in an equivalent area, but it's hardly like I've moved into a nice rural village and forced the locals out. I live in a nice part of a city.

A city where there is absolute **** loads of affordable housing, to both locals and incomers, in a variety of suburbs, from utter ****eholes to affluent areas, depending on your budget.

FWIW, I've an idea of where about Aberdude lives roughly and it's the same; a mixture of dog **** holes and nice areas; there are places to find that you can buy if you have a job, I would surmise.

No expert though, obvs.

Ergo and to sum up, i'm absolutely **** all to do with causing a price rise in Wales meaning 'locals' can't afford to buy a house (once you've been to Uni somewhere, stayed, and lived there for 20+ years you are a local, surely), but at the same time I don't agree or disagree with either of the two protagonists in this argument.

I'm on the fence chaps.

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Fair comment and very well explained.
 
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Prices are driven by supply and demand. Simple as that really.

I get why people in rural areas fume about house prices being driven up by second home owning buyers or those seeking to buy solely to use as holiday lets, but they can’t fume about people simply moving there as a full time home.

What can anyone realistically do about it anyway? Ban second homes or buy to lets? Not really.

What’s needed in these areas is more affordable homes, shared equity schemes and social housing, built solely for the benefit of locals. Funnily enough my daughter has just bought a house on such a scheme, as she lives in an area that’s swarming with holiday home buyers.

I agree with what you say, especially about needing more affordable homes and social housing especially.
 
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Thank fk for that my worst nightmare that would be..... Saying that you wouldn't be so gobby probably.

Are you getting angry <laugh>

You have a pop at the English and think I'm going to let that ride, not my fault you were the runt of the litter.
 
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So you just agreed with my point unknowingly on Welsh rural house prices but few posts back you disagreed........ Ew iz fking a strange mother fkr.

By the way I'll repeat its not an English thing its an English tory thing...... Big differences for me

You need to learn to understand what someone is saying, rather than just reading into something what you want to read.

Prices in Wales are cheap compared to some places in England. Hence if the English move to Wales, they buy and that can drive the prices up. Nature of the beast.

Do I think there should be social housing in Wales, yes I do. Do I think there should be more affordable housing, yes I do. Do I think deprived areas of Wales should receive more assistance, yes I do.

I'm English (British), I can't help you I'm afraid, other than not vote Tory, I have my reasons for doing so, that don't fit with your needs, but it was my vote, my thoughts I was considering, not yours. Does that make me selfish, maybe, do I consider myself an 'English Tory,' no, but many would agree with your view to the contrary.
 
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I don't buy my smoke.....i don't buy my third eye magic mushrooms either tiz all free in Wales......... Methinks you should have invested in some money in your third eye treatment fella it's much cheaper than bricks and mortar and way more interesting than mortgages payments

Ffs <laugh>
 
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You need to learn to understand what someone is saying, rather than just reading into something what you want to read.

Prices in Wales are cheap compared to some places in England. Hence if the English move to Wales, they buy and that can drive the prices up. Nature of the beast.

Do I think there should be social housing in Wales, yes I do. Do I think there should be more affordable housing, yes I do. Do I think deprived areas of Wales should receive more assistance, yes I do.

I'm English (British), I can't help you I'm afraid, other than not vote Tory, I have my reasons for doing so, that don't fit with your needs, but it was my vote, my thoughts I was considering, not yours. Does that make me selfish, maybe, do I consider myself an 'English Tory,' no, but many would agree with your view to the contrary.

Very tiny balls
 
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You need to learn to understand what someone is saying, rather than just reading into something what you want to read.

Prices in Wales are cheap compared to some places in England. Hence if the English move to Wales, they buy and that can drive the prices up. Nature of the beast.

Do I think there should be social housing in Wales, yes I do. Do I think there should be more affordable housing, yes I do. Do I think deprived areas of Wales should receive more assistance, yes I do.

I'm English (British), I can't help you I'm afraid, other than not vote Tory, I have my reasons for doing so, that don't fit with your needs, but it was my vote, my thoughts I was considering, not yours. Does that make me selfish, maybe, do I consider myself an 'English Tory,' no, but many would agree with your view to the contrary.

If I knew what you wrote would be of any interest, I would have read that fella...... Shame you wasted your time tory boy

Good night...... Twinkle toes
 
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Feel sorry for the millions who have got no help from the government.

Today Boris said he still considers them to have been helped because they benefited from paying lower VAT and cheaper restaurant bills.

FFS as if anyone unable to work was going out to restaurants and making big purchases, and that even if they did it made up for the loss of salary.
 
Feel sorry for the millions who have got no help from the government.

Today Boris said he still considers them to have been helped because they benefited from paying lower VAT and cheaper restaurant bills.

FFS as if anyone unable to work was going out to restaurants and making big purchases, and that even if they did it made up for the loss of salary.


Let them eat cake.
 
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