Off Topic Coronavirus
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It was on this day two years ago that we were all locked down "for about three weeks, just to flatten the curve."
The number of people killed by Covid was 281.
In the past week, it's killed 836 in a week
The number of people killed by Covid was 281.
In the past week, it's killed 836 in a week
Two years ago our borders closed
Now the virus is here they open next month
Luckily Butthuber isn't in charge
Ive had excruciating pain under my armpit from the booster jab. So much so that all together ive had 5 days off work due to the jabs. Apparantly its a common side effect. One that i will not be choosing to ever have again!!!!
We have left the decision up to our 16 year old lad as to whether he wants his jabs. He doesnt and we are fully supporting his decision.
My Mrs had swelling in her armpit on the side where she was jabbed, and some pain, after her 2nd pfizer jab early January. The swelling in a gland I think, has only just about gone now. Googling that it said it was a fairly common side effect but could be a sign of some other illness and people should get it checked out. She never did because it costs money here and it gradually went but perhaps it's a good idea to get it checked especially if you are covered by a public health system.
The World has gone totally utterly bonkers.
My youngest son is just recovering from a bad dose of Covid back in Oslo. His 5 month old also had it bad for a day, Mum positive but not so bad. But there he can go back to work if he feels well enough 5 days after testing positive, even though still testing positive! He didn't go back the last 2 days because he was still too sick but last night feeling better he was thinking of going back today (day 8) even if he tests positive.! They are saying now you are no longer infectious after 5 days! Googling this the answers seem varied- 10 days I gather in the US. What do they in the UK? In Thailand it seems you have to isolate until you test negative.
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Apparantly its the lymph nodes swelling. The pain has been randomly shooting. Not pleasent at all and one that i will never be repeating.
You can do whatever you want in the U.K., you don’t have to isolate at all. There are no COVID rules here. Of course if you feel really ill people tend to stay at home.
I go to work with a cold, while practising a bit of social distancing. I have never heard of people being told to isolate with the flu. And we don’t have highly effective vaccines for either of them.
I don’t think these numbers have any credibility now Beth. If we are told that 60% of the admissions to hospital included in the COVID figures are in fact admissions for something else but the patient happens to test positive for COVID, should we apply the same algorithm to deaths?
You know my view on this Stan, very well
If Covid contributes in any way, shape or form to the admission or the death it should be included as covid related
..as it is party to the illness and or death.
Yes a person who has a road traffic accident and dies of pneumonia after contracting covid and being laid up in hospital an open to opportunist infection..is a covid death
Not entirely true...
Covid in Scotland: Mask rules will stay in force until April
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-60750364
Covid in Wales: Mask and isolation rules may be extended
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-60834936
Should we be attributing a lot of diabetes, heart disease and cancer deaths explicitly to poor lifestyle as well? Equally, lifestyle clearly has an impact on some COVID deaths as well….
But my understanding is that a person who is fatally injured in a car accident who dies of his wounds but happens to test positive for COVID is currently recorded as a COVID death. Which is very different. Probably only a small number and I agree deaths where COVID has played a role, even when not the primary cause of death, should be recorded and understood.
Two years in and we are currently (for week of 11 March) tracking below the 5 year average for excess deaths, which is now the only benchmark I have because I can’t trust the hospitalisation figures. COVID is ‘involved’ in 6% of this below average number of deaths. Of this 6%, 417 (62%) have COVID as the underlying cause. The absolute numbers in the high hundreds per week look bad but are a very small part of the total deaths - 11,227 for England and Wales for the week ending 11 March. Dementia remains the leading cause of death, and in some age groups many more people kill themselves than die of COVID.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...landandwalesprovisional/weekending11march2022
Of course, COVID deaths are in a sense avoidable, with stringent lockdown and 100% uptake of vaccines, but the social and economic cost of the former now outweighs the risk of the virus, in my view.
I think we continue to worry about COVID because of the continual flow of dodgy statistics on the news. If we did the same for other diseases - daily diagnoses hospital admissions, and deaths for various cancers, heart disease, diabetes, dementia etc etc we might get better traction on preventing and treating these.
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Good shout. I must train myself to say ‘England’.
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Was surgical mask wearing ever compulsory in the UK and enforced? I had the impression any face covering was allowable, including bits of home made rag that don't protect you, though they protect passing it on to an extent. I also understood wearing masks was only required in public Indoor environments but if you were outside you didn't need to wear them? If it was required by law it, it didn't look like it was enforced judging by TV and Nett pictures. Not being in the UK I've not followed all that so closely there.
But the virus spreads outside in the open air, more so in cold, dry air. It also spreads from surfaces that mask wearing outside your home won't protect you from when you get home and take the mask off. The virus spreads everywhere, you can reduce it by wearing good masks but not eliminate it as you imply. Here the law requires you to wear a mask as soon as you leave home, other than when eating, drinking and exercising, but doesn't seem to be respected/ enforced now as much as before particularly by the tourists now allowed in.
Don't remember there being any rule specifically about outdoor wearing of masks, but during Lockdown periods you were only allowed to meet up in minimum numbers and supposed to be distanced from people not in your own household. There's none of that now, just masks in public spaces and also we still have Covid passports in use (although think they may have been scrapped on Monday - will know tomorrow night!).
Up here, the surface spreading is reduced as every shop has to have sanitising stations. Yes, it's not perfect, but better than nowt - not that many people are using them anymore.
Yes they have alkohol gels all round the shops and at the entrances here too, your body temperature is checked most places, and they have security who may tell people not wearing a mask to put one on, but they aren't too strict, tourists walking around in the shops with their mask under their chin or nose.
BBC reporting Covid infections in the UK have climbed by a million in the last week!