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I cannot fault you on that statement. It is certainly true that WHO officials cannot get to anyone really close to the initial outbreak. I am sure all the evidence is now missing. They may not have "caused" it, but they did absolutely nothing to stop it, whatever the origin...and they still have only had a few thousand death (yeah right)

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Just checked 104,000 cases and 4636 deaths ...unbelievable
Currently they have 14 serious cases!!!!
The thing is life does have a way of dealing with unsavoury people. If China did do this deliberately don’t be surprised if a comet lands on them and wipes them out.
 
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This story popped up on my phone too. Im in no doubt thatvthis virus was lab made. I dont have any evidence to back that but i firmly believe it.

Me too, or at least it was developed or worked on at that lab. It may have come from animals originally but that lab had it and released it imo.
 
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That at least is good news Steels...How is the long Covid though, is it still persisting?

Nearly 20 months on from catching Covid, and 16 months from being diagnosed with Long Covid she's still got some residual problems. As I said to Hoop Leif, the main one is joint pain. It's constant, 24-7, pain in her neck, spine, hips, knees, ankles and wrists. They assume that the virus attacked the central nervous system, causing untold damage, and they've no idea when, or if, it will get better.

Fatigue is another issue, but nowhere near as bad as it was early last year. Sometimes issues with vision, but this may be tied to the fatigue. Thankfully no issues with breathlessness, which I know a lot of Long Covid patients suffer from.

They recently released a timetable to help diagnose Long Covid patients, they've obviously done a lot of research as at every milestone, the symptoms experienced by Mrs Steels tallied up with what the table says....only wish they'd had this info at the time so we wouldn't have been left wondering what the hell was going on when all her muscles started spasming or she couldn't even walk up the stairs.

They reckon there's over a million people suffering with Long Covid in the UK, so no matter whether were in pandemic or it's now endemic, there will be plenty of people still suffering.
 
All caused by covid?
All with COVID. As long as the proportion of died with/died of is pretty constant, and I have no reason to believe it isn’t, rising numbers mean more deaths caused by COVID. Numbers have been rising over the last week or so, without much notice being taken.
 
The thing is life does have a way of dealing with unsavoury people. If China did do this deliberately don’t be surprised if a comet lands on them and wipes them out.
By the way I don’t mean some poor fella working on some farm… I’m on about those who would have created the virus ( if it was created).
 
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Nearly 20 months on from catching Covid, and 16 months from being diagnosed with Long Covid she's still got some residual problems. As I said to Hoop Leif, the main one is joint pain. It's constant, 24-7, pain in her neck, spine, hips, knees, ankles and wrists. They assume that the virus attacked the central nervous system, causing untold damage, and they've no idea when, or if, it will get better.

Fatigue is another issue, but nowhere near as bad as it was early last year. Sometimes issues with vision, but this may be tied to the fatigue. Thankfully no issues with breathlessness, which I know a lot of Long Covid patients suffer from.

They recently released a timetable to help diagnose Long Covid patients, they've obviously done a lot of research as at every milestone, the symptoms experienced by Mrs Steels tallied up with what the table says....only wish they'd had this info at the time so we wouldn't have been left wondering what the hell was going on when all her muscles started spasming or she couldn't even walk up the stairs.

They reckon there's over a million people suffering with Long Covid in the UK, so no matter whether were in pandemic or it's now endemic, there will be plenty of people still suffering.
Sounds awful steels and one i can fully understand. They seem to be what many call 'silent symptoms'. A varying degree of disability that you cant see. My wife suffers a lot with the symptoms you mention. Not pleasent at all.
 
So France gets 20,000 cases and they close the border.
Now they’ve had 2 days of 360k cases… they open the border. <doh>
 
Why has the Professor Van-Tam stepped down.

Disagreement in policy
Was he at the party
Or the official line to take a new position at Nottingham University ( if so...pretty bad timing)

Answers on the back of an envelope please
 
Why has the Professor Van-Tam stepped down.

Disagreement in policy
Was he at the party
Or the official line to take a new position at Nottingham University ( if so...pretty bad timing)

Answers on the back of an envelope please
I doubt he would have been at a party… however you never know in todays world?
 
Why has the Professor Van-Tam stepped down.

Disagreement in policy
Was he at the party
Or the official line to take a new position at Nottingham University ( if so...pretty bad timing)

Answers on the back of an envelope please
Perhaps he just feels personally compromised by the company he has been forced to keep, and has had enough of it. His grandad was prime minister aka dictator of South Vietnam in the fifties you know. He has standards.
 
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Why has the Professor Van-Tam stepped down.

Disagreement in policy
Was he at the party
Or the official line to take a new position at Nottingham University ( if so...pretty bad timing)

Answers on the back of an envelope please

I thought he hadn't left the university and was simply going back after being 'borrowed'?
 
Isolation period cut to five days with two negative tests. I suppose this depends on when you first started isolating - when first testing positive, when first symptoms appear - but on my n of 1 sample, my son, he was still testing positive 9 days after first showing symptoms and 8 days after testing positive.

I hope they put out some guidance on expectations with this. I’m assuming testing positive on Monday, then negative on Thursday and Friday to end isolation on Saturday is a sign of very light viral load, and that many people won’t be able to do this as they will still be infectious.

It’s a good thing if it releases healthy people from isolation.