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Crazy. Bonkers. We have lost our ****ing minds over this.
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James Melville
@JamesMelville
Crazy. Bonkers. We have lost our ****ing minds over this.
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Were you told not to drink alcohol for two weeks after having the jab?
I heard anecdotally that someone was told that after they'd had theirs.
I only found out by accident yesterday that this was the recommendation, a week after I'd had the jab. Much too late, I'm afraid.
Meanwhile, two of my daughter's healthy 30-something friends have had the jab after getting random invitations from their GPs. And no, these weren't last minute invitations to use up vaccine that would have otherwise gone to waste.
My other daughter, who is 32 and pregnant, also had an invitation from her GP. When she queried it, they just apologised and withdrew the invitation.
There is no published data about the specific effects of alcohol on the body's response to the jab, Drinkaware says, but there is some evidence that drinking alcohol - especially heavily - could interfere with your body's ability to build immunity.
Not proven, m’lud. I’d volunteer for a trial to test this though.
Good news from Israel, which is bothering to track these things, that the Pfizer vaccine is 85% effective after one dose in the real world, though the study was on healthy working age people.
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The only verbal advice was not to drive on that day and to contact 111 or doctor if the side effects listed continued for more than 3 days. We were give a pamphlet 'A guide for older adults' and an info leaflet. Nowhere was consuming alcohol mentioned and the leaflet stated the jab contains a microscopic amount of ethanol. I don't suspect an occasional G&T will be detrimental...
Got any spare vaccines going in the UK? If so send them this way........
Whilst the UK has steamed ahead, over here we have the princely sum of 187,893 first doses and 105,859 second doses done as at the 16th February....... although we are promised that come Q2 we will be receiving 1m doses a month........wowzers.
The breakdown of the doses given is:
Pfizer/BioNTech - 271205
Moderna - 3907
AstraZenica - 18640
Whilst the UK has steamed ahead, over here we have the princely sum of 187,893 first doses and 105,859 second doses done as at the 16th February....... although we are promised that come Q2 we will be receiving 1m doses a month........wowzers.
The breakdown of the doses given is:
Pfizer/BioNTech - 271205
Moderna - 3907
AstraZenica - 18640
Media getting very excited by ‘roadmap out of lockdown’ promised on Monday.
This is necessary of course, but I’m struck that we are now almost numb to the daily death toll, 533 today. We are seeing the equivalent of a major plane crash daily (several daily crashes a couple of weeks ago). All of this knocked down the news hierarchy by some throwback issue around defunct nobility.
This is necessary of course, but I’m struck that we are now almost numb to the daily death toll, 533 today. We are seeing the equivalent of a major plane crash daily (several daily crashes a couple of weeks ago). All of this knocked down the news hierarchy by some throwback issue around defunct nobility.
hopefully theres some left for the palestinians
Mohamed Al Khaja
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The UAE and Israel are leading the world in vaccine rollout programs. We are learning from each other and sharing this knowledge with the world. This is what peace brings. The UAE and Israel: United in saving lives, ending [HASHTAG]#COVID19[/HASHTAG] and safely reopening our economies. [HASHTAG]#JabNations[/HASHTAG]
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Mohamed Al Khaja
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The UAE and Israel are leading the world in vaccine rollout programs. We are learning from each other and sharing this knowledge with the world. This is what peace brings. The UAE and Israel: United in saving lives, ending [HASHTAG]#COVID19[/HASHTAG] and safely reopening our economies. [HASHTAG]#JabNations[/HASHTAG]
keep an eye out for wills and kate the next time you are on the tube
No trace of coronavirus on London Tube or buses, study finds
Poppy Wood
Researches swabbed high-contact areas on the transport network including stop buttons, hand rails and ticket barriers (Getty Images)
No traces of coronavirus have been found in London’s Tubes, buses and stations, according to a wide-ranging new study.
Experts from Imperial College London have been taking air and surface samples from journeys on London’s transport network each month since October.
Read more: London at risk of being ‘levelled down’ by pandemic, leading business groups warn Rishi Sunak
Scientists mimicked a typical commuter journey on London’s bus and Tube network, and repeated it every four weeks “to get an idea of how things change over time, rather than try a scattergun approach across the entire network”.
They swabbed high-contact areas such as ticket barriers, stop buttons on buses and escalator handrails. No swabs returned a positive result when tested for Covid.
They also found no trace of any new Covid mutations, such as the Kent variant, which has now become the dominant form of coronavirus in the UK.
Dr David Green, senior research fellow at Imperial, said the findings from the “very sensitive” testing were “reassuring for passengers”.
He added that the test results were likely the result of regular cleaning and social distancing on London’s transport networks.
“During the early stage of the pandemic, everybody was very concerned about washing their hands and touching surfaces,” said Green.
“As we’ve moved on, we are much more convinced that the routes of transmission tend to be through the air — through breathing, through being in confined environments, not maintaining social distancing or not wearing masks.”
However, he noted that the tests should be misconstrued as a free pass to scrap social distancing measures.
“The occupancy level is much lower and everybody is wearing masks. All of these things will reduce the chances of the virus being spread in these environments,” he said.
Green added: “It will be an early warning system to tell us, ‘is the risk of transmission on transport networks becoming more likely as more passengers return to the networks?’”
“We do need to keep social distancing in mind, and we do need to keep wearing masks because these are the reasons that the virus transmits between humans. It’s through aerosol transmission, it’s through touching surfaces, it’s through being very close to other people,” he said,
But the results will come as a major boon for plans to revive the capital after months of closure.
The Prime Minister is facing growing pressure from Tory backbenchers to announce firm dates for lifting restrictions across the country, as the UK continues to see a downward trend in Covid cases.
It comes after figures released today by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) showed the level of coronavirus in the capital has plummeted over the past week.
Around 1 in 100 Londoners had Covid in the week to 12 February, according to the latest ONS infection survey — down from 1 in 63 the week before.
The dramatic drop means London is no longer the most-infected region in the country, after the North West of England tipped past the capital with an estimated 1 in 91 people infected last week.
No trace of coronavirus on London Tube or buses, study finds
Poppy Wood
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Researches swabbed high-contact areas on the transport network including stop buttons, hand rails and ticket barriers (Getty Images)
No traces of coronavirus have been found in London’s Tubes, buses and stations, according to a wide-ranging new study.
Experts from Imperial College London have been taking air and surface samples from journeys on London’s transport network each month since October.
Read more: London at risk of being ‘levelled down’ by pandemic, leading business groups warn Rishi Sunak
Scientists mimicked a typical commuter journey on London’s bus and Tube network, and repeated it every four weeks “to get an idea of how things change over time, rather than try a scattergun approach across the entire network”.
They swabbed high-contact areas such as ticket barriers, stop buttons on buses and escalator handrails. No swabs returned a positive result when tested for Covid.
They also found no trace of any new Covid mutations, such as the Kent variant, which has now become the dominant form of coronavirus in the UK.
Dr David Green, senior research fellow at Imperial, said the findings from the “very sensitive” testing were “reassuring for passengers”.
He added that the test results were likely the result of regular cleaning and social distancing on London’s transport networks.
“During the early stage of the pandemic, everybody was very concerned about washing their hands and touching surfaces,” said Green.
“As we’ve moved on, we are much more convinced that the routes of transmission tend to be through the air — through breathing, through being in confined environments, not maintaining social distancing or not wearing masks.”
However, he noted that the tests should be misconstrued as a free pass to scrap social distancing measures.
“The occupancy level is much lower and everybody is wearing masks. All of these things will reduce the chances of the virus being spread in these environments,” he said.
Green added: “It will be an early warning system to tell us, ‘is the risk of transmission on transport networks becoming more likely as more passengers return to the networks?’”
“We do need to keep social distancing in mind, and we do need to keep wearing masks because these are the reasons that the virus transmits between humans. It’s through aerosol transmission, it’s through touching surfaces, it’s through being very close to other people,” he said,
But the results will come as a major boon for plans to revive the capital after months of closure.
The Prime Minister is facing growing pressure from Tory backbenchers to announce firm dates for lifting restrictions across the country, as the UK continues to see a downward trend in Covid cases.
It comes after figures released today by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) showed the level of coronavirus in the capital has plummeted over the past week.
Around 1 in 100 Londoners had Covid in the week to 12 February, according to the latest ONS infection survey — down from 1 in 63 the week before.
The dramatic drop means London is no longer the most-infected region in the country, after the North West of England tipped past the capital with an estimated 1 in 91 people infected last week.
Imagine getting back into pubs and ordering a Carlsberg.