Bob the highest infection rates is 16-29. Data shows it is not school kids.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...is-creeping-up-into-older-age-groups-12102505
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You know where the buck stops but you won’t acknowledge it. Lockdowns aren’t meant to be a cure but they buy you time. We used that time to siphon money to Tory donors and friends of MPs when we could have developed a superior t&t system for a fraction of the price.
Yes people are selfish for going out on the piss irresponsibly but it’s nowhere near as important to the overall success of dealing with the virus as government ineptitude, inconsistency and corruption which is the catalyst for serfs misbehaving.
The buck stops with people and understanding what respect is. No need for the scenes in Liverpool last night. No one can defend that? (I bet a few will though.) Just listen to some of the emergency service people... yes many who don't vote Tory and their telling of last night's scenes. Shocking. Utter twats.
No, it doesn’t. But this government could burn your house down and you’d make an excuse for them. People adhered well to clear lockdown instructions at first, knowingly sacrificing a lot for a greater good. That good faith has been constantly eroded by government decisions and the North feels like it’s been shat on by a government imposing and lifting lockdowns to suit the South-East and London.
you need to read up mate... during lockdown Manchester had a party with 500 people that the police raided. plenty of other cases in Luton London Birmingham and Liverpool. You can go down the usual government rhetoric route but it still comes down to respect and to follow the guidelines. Now here is one for you, as you follow the science... one of the top bods on those scientific groups said "If people follow the guidelines we will defeat this virus" mmm you better tell that to the mob in Liverpool and the University students in Newcastle/Durham/Leeds/Manchester... funny that's where the spikes are?
I wonder why all these school years are closing down up here then. Must just be the sniffles. This disease certainly seems to have spread from south to north. Our infection rates were relatively low when they were at the peak down south. I blame Mexico now for ****ing equalizing against Algeria!
I fully expect an announcement soon that those jobs lost in the NHS over the years because the taxpayer couldn't find the magic money tree will be asked to return to save our NHS. Probably on a voluntary basis. 'Your country needs you. Blah Blah.' This government is all about knee jerk reactions rather than joined up thinking and the knee jerks themselves are all dictated by what looks good to the buffoons preening themselves in the mirror.
It’s not rhetoric if it’s accurate. Respect is earned and it’s not earned by demonising people while circling the wagons whenever a Tory is caught out. It’s not really earned either by building an inexperienced government based on hatred and lies.
That reads like a list of places not ready to come out of lockdown when we were to benefit London.
You are not using that chestnut? Really? If someone put their head in an oven would you? Actually you probably would if it was against the rules. Now you seem to be sticking up for those idiots in Liverpool and somehow trying to blame the government? For a supposedly clever chap you really do show your ignorance at times Watford.
I’m not condoning it but I do to an extent understand it, more so than people piling into pubs for one last pint before the first lockdown or middle-class mums fighting over toilet roll in Waitrose. You can’t expect people to obey perfectly in such unique and difficult circumstances when you refuse to lead by example. Especially people who get pissed on by this Party every time going back decades. Still, most people have been really good and sensible about it in spite of various politicians and celebrities’ actions. The outliers will always get the headlines.
This again is where your argument falls down. Comes back to the same old rhetoric. As I said it comes down to respect and those 100s of idiots out last night and all the others who break the guidelines do because that is who they are. Those incidents during lockdown was before Cummings eyetest. What's your excuse now?
Again though, it isn’t rhetoric. It’s behavioural science. If you create a selfish culture and then go out of your way to set a poor example in extreme social circumstances like this you have no chance.
You do have a chance of balancing out the former if you lead properly but once that trust is eroded you’re done assuming you don’t have the resources to enforce compliance, which we don’t as we don’t have sufficient police and justice resource in normal times.
In summary, we’re very ****ed and I don’t think a competent government could come in and Sam Allardyce us to a reasonable end to this. It didn’t have to go this way but it has.
Myself, my family, and my friends of all political party backgrounds would never act like those in Liverpool last night, or the others that have gone out of their way to break rules. Collectively we have acted responsibly and followed the guidelines. It comes down to respect. If you cant understand that, then that is your problem.
Well yeah as have almost all of us on here I assume. It’s not all or nothing. It’s the difference between X% and Y% complying.
Well in that case if people don't comply, then it's a lost cause. Heard many many people before saying the Virus was BS and they wouldn't abide by the rules. We will never beat it when people think that?