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Miranda Gore Browne

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I insisted we see dad over the wall today. It’s so upsetting. My mum was telling him we love him and all want to see him but can’t and she tried to tell him it’s almost their 52nd wedding anniversary.
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This is the very sad fact that everyday people have faced, yet, the rich & famous can be waved in and paraded by many a politician and or country.
 
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Seems like Boris et al are flying solo now, having rejected the scientists on SAGE’s advice for a time limited circuit breaker lockdown 3 weeks ago. So much for ‘following the science’ now, though who knows whether doing that has helped or hindered so far.
 
Some basics for communicating with large groups of people with varying interests, ability to absorb and understand information, differing personal priorities and needs:
- be clear: make sure absolutely anyone can understand the message. And that you can explain it without panicking.
- be consistent: don’t change the message at frequent intervals, it gets confusing.
- be trustworthy: don’t undermine the message by behaving in ways that contradict it, while expecting others to stay in line.

Hit those three and you get a high degree of compliance.

Now, why would anyone be surprised that we are struggling with compliance to the governments COVID rules?

Scary HD picture of Johnson on the front page of the Times today. Poorly shaven, looks like he’s on the edge of collapse.

Media covering case of a US man apparently reinfected with COVID, quite badly the second time for a young, fit bloke. But as this is only the 5th such recorded case (and the other 4 have been less serious) out of over 38 million recorded infections it’s actually quite encouraging.
 
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Sage experts say Test and Trace is having a 'marginal' impact on tackling the virus because the system neither tests nor traces enough people.

The £12 billion programme will 'further decline' unless it grows at the same rate as the epidemic, the scientific advisory group warned in documents released on Monday.
 
sb_73 said:
Where did you get it from and who wrote the comment? I can barely understand it, but assume that it means there is another pathway for cases in educational settings. I don’t think it necessarily means what the comment interprets it to mean, though the whole thing is written in bureaucratic gibberish.

What I do know is that the test and trace people are phoning each of the seven people in my daughters house on a daily basis to make sure that they are isolating, They are very nice and read from a script according to my daughter. Presumably if one of them doesn’t respond, or, foolishly says that they are out and about, the coppers come round, kick the door down and collect some revenue.
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Seems the story was true, but the interpretation is somewhat different....

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-ne...BVOwQtA1GQAH_bM-2DFUMrJK74RuCeBMMxvWh4vlYCl1w

Details of cases in schools are to be passed to Dickie Dido's people rather than local teams because the local authorities are struggling to cope. Properly funding the local authorities is not an option, of course.
 
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Stroller said:
Seems the story was true, but the interpretation is somewhat different....

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-ne...BVOwQtA1GQAH_bM-2DFUMrJK74RuCeBMMxvWh4vlYCl1w

Details of cases in schools are to be passed to Dickie Dido's people rather than local teams because the local authorities are struggling to cope. Properly funding the local authorities is not an option, of course.
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I read somewhere that the locally run tracing was doing much better than the nationally run stuff.

If, as a side effect of this tsunami of ****, we end up with a bit more authority and decision making about a whole host of things at local level, I for one will take that as a small positive solace. It’s pretty clear that central decision making and administration has been dodgy at best.
 
sb_73 said:
I read somewhere that the locally run tracing was doing much better than the nationally run stuff.

If, as a side effect of this tsunami of ****, we end up with a bit more authority and decision making about a whole host of things at local level, I for one will take that as a small positive solace. It’s pretty clear that central decision making and administration has been dodgy at best.
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Yes, I think that local teams have been much more successful (and cost effective) than the Serco lot in contact tracing, but it seems that they've begun to struggle due to lack of resources. Some of the £12 billion might have come in handy.
 
Papers released today showing minutes of the SAGE meetings and their recommendations. Looks pretty bad for the government.......yet again
 
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