Off Topic Coronavirus
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Covid outbreak at work now at 20 - the results of the private healthcare test, as paid for by the company, have still not come through so we're on a skeleton staff - what a clusterfuck! At least now we know at least one outbreak is definately associated with 5G!
On a better note, the mrs is starting to show some good signs of recovery. However, she still hasn't heard from the cardiology department at the local hospital so gave them a call to find out when her appointment will be - to be told they are not giving out appointments at the moment, and she'll "Just have to wait" - FFS
On a better note, the mrs is starting to show some good signs of recovery. However, she still hasn't heard from the cardiology department at the local hospital so gave them a call to find out when her appointment will be - to be told they are not giving out appointments at the moment, and she'll "Just have to wait" - FFS
What, she had a scan and presumably an ECG and they are refusing to report on them? What is this madness? I assume they are seeing a surge in virus admissions, and if I remember rightly you live in an area which is prone to high levels of infection for some reason, but this really is inexcusable in my view.
Anyone any idea how much the Irish test and trace system cost and also is it working efficiently?
This is for students ‘on campus’ ie in University accommodation. US universities have been spectacularly good, in general, in controlling the spread on their own premises. I know people with kids in Indiana U. In Uni halls etc the positive infection rate is about 1.5% which is great considering the proximity of people. In the privately run off campus frat and sorority house it goes up to 77% in some cases. But I guess the point is that very few are hospitalised and none die. This is as expected for the age group, the issue is could they spread the virus to those at much higher risk. So let’s see the figures for deaths in adult residential care homes. 42% of all US deaths are of people in long term care facilities, which is actually about 0.6% of the population. That’s about 100,000 deaths.
And of course, as yet we have no idea how many of these young, fit but infected people might develop long covid symptoms.
But if the whole thing is a ‘hoax’ why throw around stats? They must all be fake by definition. More relevant to show who is managing the hoax and how they benefit from it and also keep it a secret.
Had an ECG on last visit to A&E, now awaiting a 72 hour tape to get a baseline on what is happening - which she can already see through her smart-watch, heart rate all over the place and regular missed beats. Both GP and A&E referred her to cardiology department, but if they are not dishing out appointments haw do you know what the **** is going on?
We do live in an area that is susceptible to high levels of infection due to poor health, poverty and high level of drug addiction (we top all the leagues in Scotland for these - go Inverclyde!)
I read an article not so long ago about how they were helping treat covid patients with blood thinners due to the risk of clotting. It really interested me as my wife takes daily thinners and suffers all the symptoms you now associate with your wife. Hope you can get to the bottom of it pal.
Costs
I haven't seen any figures on how much it is costing. No doubt it is costing a fortune especially as some of the testing has been outsourced to a company in Germany in order to increase capacity.
Testing Efficiency
The same as in the UK. I have heard mixed reports. Some say they get the result in a day or two. Others say they have to wait a few days.
Tracing
They are about to recruit an extra 500 tracers. Again, the reports on tracing are mixed. Some say it is working very well, others disagree. There is an HSE (Health Service Executive - NHS) app which something like 1.3m people downloaded - in a population of 5m. The app works well. It gives statistics of cases in each county each day and advice on what to do if you start feeling ill. If you are contacted by the HSE as a possible close contact, you can upload details of who your close contacts are. The app seems to work well but not sure it is world class like the one over there lol. It is called the HSE covid tracker app if you want to download it and have a look.
Overall situation in Ireland
Despite the numbers of cases increasing again since lock down ended, I think the government have handled the situation fairly well. To date Our infection rate is higher than the U.K. but our death rate is much lower. The real test will be how they cope this Winter with increasing cases especially among the under 45's. We are beginning to see outbreaks in nursing homes again so eventually, the numbers of deaths will increase. The economy they say is coping better than they expected due to higher than expected tax returns, especially from the multi-national sector who's exports have increased especially in the Pharmaceutical sector. Industrial output has increased by 11% where as everywhere else in Europe it decreased. The government expects to borrow anywhere from 20-30 billion euro extra this year. Our ability to control the situation with Covid is complicated by the open border with the North where in the past few weeks, infection rates are much higher. The whole country moved into level 3 restrictions at midnight last night. We are not allowed leave our own county unless for essential work or health reasons. This morning they had 132 checkpoints in operation resulting in huge traffic jams around the country. There were 8km queues on some motorways heading in and out of Dublin.
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Following on from fingi's post above.....last weekend the contries health experts recommended that the whole country should be moved to level 5, complete lockdown, however the government resisted that and went to level 3 instead.....Dublin and Donegal had been at level 3 for the past 3 weeks whilst the rest of the county was at level 2...... government had to balance health and economic outlook hence the decision.....
Under level 3 care homes are closed to visitors, pubs outside Dublin are only allowed to serve up to a maximum of 15 customers outdoors or sell take aways....no indoor customers.....elite sport played BCD, gyms remain open for individual training but no classes,...
All this in place until midnight 27th October...
Stay safe all
Under level 3 care homes are closed to visitors, pubs outside Dublin are only allowed to serve up to a maximum of 15 customers outdoors or sell take aways....no indoor customers.....elite sport played BCD, gyms remain open for individual training but no classes,...
All this in place until midnight 27th October...
Stay safe all
Just to give people an idea of how high the figures have been lately in Northern Ireland, today they reported 828 new cases bringing their overall total to 16,187. The past 7 days alone accounts for over 27% of the total cases since February/March with 4,414 confirmed cases.
The scientists who are challenging the lockdown strategy would probably point out though that cases are not accurately being described. Prior to covid, it seems that a ‘case’ referred to an individual who was sick, potentially hospitalised with the virus, but now a case is counted when there is a positive pcr test result. Many of these cases involve people who are healthy.
They would probably also point out that the false positive rate is unacceptably high and moreover that the test is not identifying the virus, but instead fragments of old virus that the body may have defeated at any point in the person’s life.
They might say we don’t have an epidemic, but a casedemic, based on useless data.
This voice is growing, not on the bbc of course. It seems massively important to me, but no one on here seems too concerned by it. What am I missing?
The virus is real and has been among us in various forms for over a decade. The hoax is the political response to impose its tyranny upon us. Like you, I went along with everything and have followed all of the rules. ( Still do. ) But to keep dragging on with these draconian measures is beyond the pale.
I've just seen that Sturgeon has banned the sale of alcohol in bars and pubs for sixteen days from the 9th October. Are they having a competition to see who can impose the most ridiculous measure?