Off Topic Coronavirus

[bobmid]

I agree that the public is justified in having no confidence in the government’s measures given the record over the last few months, but I think only a tiny, tiny minority are not following because they think the rules are illegal and undemocratic, a fringe of the libertarian fringe. Although it looks bad on telly, and is clearly enough to keep the virus spreading, I really think those who are visibly breaking the rules (like the mobs in the streets at 10 pm in a few places) are either profoundly ignorant or just don’t care. Most of us, even those (like me) who have doubts about the effectiveness of some of these measures - and also I think most of those who are more concerned about the impact on the economy - still follow the rules. I have to say, in my case it really is the effectiveness of the rules that I doubt, in these circumstances I don’t feel any unreasonable restrictions on my liberty. It’s utility and appropriateness we should be concentrating on.

Good post mate. In my experience, forgetting the scenes of protests on the tv, people are breaking the laws/rules on a daily basis.

 

[sb_73]

Good post mate. In my experience, forgetting the scenes of protests on the tv, people are breaking the laws/rules on a daily basis.

Oh, yes, I agree. But I don’t think most of them are doing it as some form of protest. They do it because their individual convenience is more important to them than the collective health of their communities. Selfishness. Quite a few of those moaning about police states etc are also more concerned about their personal convenience than principle, I suspect. Not those commenting on it on here, of course. Of course, as we don’t know how effective some of these rules are, especially those with little or no evidence behind them, like the 10.00 curfew, it might not matter anyway, and there is just cause to challenge them.

The government minister on the radio now cannot answer questions about her own governments new rules. How the **** do they expect ordinary, thick, people to follow them?

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Oh, yes, I agree. But I don’t think most of them are doing it as some form of protest. They do it because their individual convenience is more important to them than the collective health of their communities. Selfishness.

The government minister on the radio now cannot answer questions about her own governments new rules. How the **** do they expect ordinary, thick, people to follow them?

Without knowing any more info, I’m going with Helen Whateley.

 

[sb_73]

Without knowing any more info, I’m going with Helen Whateley.

I think it was the universities minister, whoever she is. But Whateley is a good catch all for astounding vagueness.

 

[Staines R's]

Good post mate. In my experience, forgetting the scenes of protests on the tv, people are breaking the laws/rules on a daily basis.

Possibly because the rules the government have put in place are meaningless, confusing and quite honestly ****ing stupid.
We are like a ship without a rudder, going this way and that way without any true direction......and to blame the passengers for that is quite honestly appalling. The blame lays firmly at the hands of the government.

 

[Stroller]

I wish the government would just say ‘we are keeping the pubs and restaurants open because, if we don’t, we won’t have any pubs and restaurants in a couple of months time, and will have even worse unemployment than we are looking at already. In terms of controlling the virus the only effective strategy is full lockdown, but that would be more socially catastrophic than we can countenance. But please do the basics - distancing, mask wearing, hand washing - and use your common sense. We are sorry that we have ****ed this up so comprehensively”

That would do nicely.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Possibly because the rules the government have put in place are meaningless, confusing and quite honestly ****ing stupid.
We are like a ship without a rudder, going this way and that way without any true direction......and to blame the passengers for that is quite honestly appalling. The blame lays firmly at the hands of the government.

The poor folk having parties in third class on the Titanic were the real problem.

 

[Staines R's]

The poor folk having parties in third class on the Titanic were the real problem.

As long as it’s only a funeral then it’s fine......

 

[ELLERS]

problem is if only 6 people were allowed at a funeral people would complain about that.
The government is damned if they do or don't. It just comes down to a bit of respect and common sense. It's funny reading over this thread the number of people contradicting themselves from before.
I guess like the government we need to adapt.

 

[Staines R's]

What a load of **** some people on here spout.

 

[ELLERS]

What a load of **** some people on here spout.

I agree. I have read your posts.

 

[IwasanotherwatfordR]

I think it’s all a huge conspiracy, maybe I should start a thread .........

 

[Staines R's]

I agree. I have read your posts.

Nice one you slippery grassing slag, you
Ooppss, might get reported

 

[bobmid]

Nice one you slippery grassing slag, you
Ooppss, might get reported

****in hell that made me spit my coffee out ha ha

 

[Staines R's]

****in hell that made me spit my coffee out ha ha

Not wrong though, eh Bob. The lads got previous for being a grass.....and they never change.
Once a grass, always a grass.

 

[Woodyhoopleson]

problem is if only 6 people were allowed at a funeral people would complain about that.
The government is damned if they do or don't. It just comes down to a bit of respect and common sense. It's funny reading over this thread the number of people contradicting themselves from before.
I guess like the government we need to adapt.

You can’t defend these ****s ellers, surely. There purely unfit for purpose at the very best. What do you think when you hear them interviewed and produce lie after lie and avoid questions they don’t want to answer?

The only defence can be that they are not in any form of control whatsoever.

 

[Staines R's]

You can’t defend these ****s ellers, surely. There purely unfit for purpose at the very best. What do you think when you hear them interviewed and produce lie after lie and avoid questions they don’t want to answer?

The only defence can be that they are not in any form of control whatsoever.

Of course he’ll defend them.....he’ll have ‘Mop heads’ dick in his mouth by 7pm while having thoughts of Mrs Thatch naked covered in whipped cream.....he’s a ****ing Tory....it’s what they do

 

[ELLERS]

You can’t defend these ****s ellers, surely. There purely unfit for purpose at the very best. What do you think when you hear them interviewed and produce lie after lie and avoid questions they don’t want to answer?

The only defence can be that they are not in any form of control whatsoever.

Hang on Woody I am not just sticking up for them. I know they have made mistakes but when people don't respect the guidelines it's not their fault. Just bashing the government at every opportunity. As I said many have contradicted themselves on here.

 

[ELLERS]

Oh crap our resident expert is back with his self-opinionated rubbish. But I respect you mate.

 

[Woodyhoopleson]

Of course he’ll defend them.....he’ll have ‘Mop heads’ dick in his mouth by 7pm while having thoughts of Mrs Thatch naked covered in whipped cream.....he’s a ****ing Tory....it’s what they do

This isn’t about politics, I don’t think. A Tory might back their policies if truly that stubborn or if they simply naturally agree, but I reckon peoples’ feelings about current government policy, like whipping through the 10K fine bill in a matter of hours, on a Sunday night, plotted against peoples’ political allegiances would be totally incomparable.