Off Topic Coronavirus

[KooPeeArr]

Just back from my big weekly shop in Aldi.

I must have missed the announcement that 2m has been downgraded to 2ft to enable every **** to get ready for a barbecue.

Previously it was about 10% who weren't abiding by the rules but today it was closer to 80%. It wasn't even that busy since they are still limiting the number allowed in the store.

 

[Woodyhoopleson]

**** them. Who honestly comes up with these decisions? Are we following the science?? And ignoring the redacted sage minutes that the government dont want anyone to see???

We are following a selected group of scientists, not science.

 

[Uber_Hoop]

Nine creme eggs is a good effort

I prefer chocolate covered peanuts. They go up a Treat.

 

[bobmid]

We are following a selected group of scientists, not science.

Ah that makes more sense

 

[bobmid]

Companies 'will have to provide face masks for all who return to work' with Boris Johnson set to recommend their use tomorrow

 

[bobmid]

Companies 'will have to provide face masks for all who return to work' with Boris Johnson set to recommend their use tomorrow

Surely not, the science said there was very little benefit. Silly scientists

 

[bobmid]

My 10 year old niece could do as good a job as these useless ****s running the country. For one, she wouldnt constantly lie.

 

[KooPeeArr]

Surely not, the science said there was very little benefit. Silly scientists

They said there were marginal benefits but didn't want the public buying masks that the critical workforce needed.

I'm truly flattered that they think little old me has more purchasing power than the government/NHS procurement departments.

Then again, our household has managed to buy 15 pairs of gloves (yes, pairs not single gloves - I'm not a Michael Jackson tribute act) so perhaps we are better at buying protective equipment...

 

[sb_73]

I wouldn’t say “Poor Peter” is “bleating”. I’d say his job is to continue repeating what he believes and try and persuade. He gets far worse about than that on his Twitter thread and generally responds by politely asking the antagonist if they actually have anything useful to say, particularly facts that may disprove his position. I’ve seen little. The stuff about the number of deaths is understandably emotional.

But, one in 133 ‘patients’. If the 6 million is correct then the death rate is 1 in 200. That maths doesn’t work for me as it suggest that 2/3rd of those infected become ‘patients’, doesn’t it?

Have 4 million required hospital treatment?

No, he’s never said lift the restrictions completely. He thinks social distancing is appropriate. But he does believe crashing the economy is a disproportionate measure compared with the threat. More and more are starting to ask similar questions, so perhaps he is an early bleater.

Desperate? Interesting.

If you look at their family background it’s very sad. I think they are/were both highly intelligent rather needy attention seekers, who decided that having opinions for money was the way the get the attention. I’m (sort of) sure their opinions are/were sincere (unlike, say, Piers Morgan’s or Jeremy Clarkson’s which are transparently about reinforcing their lucrative personas). I strongly suspect that I would not enjoy spending time socially with any of this quartet.

We gravitate towards the people voicing views that tend to back up our own opinions, as you have pointed out yourself. My problem is that I don’t know what my opinion is on this stuff. I suspect we are dealing with it poorly compared to others, but it’s probably too late to do much about that now. I don’t want any more people to die but I also want to go to the pub. I hope the Swedish approach works, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it wouldn’t work here. I have huge respect for professionals in the NHS, but worry that the ‘protect the NHS’ mantra has led to more deaths than necessary, and reinforced this ridiculous ‘beloved’ untouchable status for the organisation. I don’t particularly like or trust Hitchens P but some of his views on this resonate, if not his style of presentation. But I would say the same of whoever the anti Hitchens P representative is. It’s all ****ed up.


I don’t really understand the maths. I just thought that a 0.75% mortality rate meant that 0.75% of all those infected die. We don’t know how many people have been infected, though if that assumption is safe it would be a minimum of 2.5m people have had the disease so far, assuming 30k dead (we know it’s more). Anything that proves that dick Ferguson wrong is fine by me.

 

[sb_73]

Surely not, the science said there was very little benefit. Silly scientists

They said there were marginal benefits but didn't want the public buying masks that the critical workforce needed.

I'm truly flattered that they think little old me has more purchasing power than the government/NHS procurement departments.

Then again, our household has managed to buy 15 pairs of gloves (yes, pairs not single gloves - I'm not a Michael Jackson tribute act) so perhaps we are better at buying protective equipment...

You can get masks at all of those little sole trader hardware stores round my way - 3 grades, the pathetic surgical masks £1, then a more industrial looking thing £3 and a proper dust mask (for labourers) £4. All single use, but the last one ok for up to 8 hours. I got 3 of the latter for the family when the inevitable diktat happens, one for each member of the family, will be worn, in a mocking postmodern fashion, in shops only and reused. Purely for social acceptance.

You can guarantee that there is no new evidence for the change of policy, and none will be published. There is no need for anyone who is healthy to wear a mask, it won’t protect you. If you are ill it could reduce the chances of you infecting someone else, but you shouldn’t be out anyway if you are ill should you? If you are carrying the virus but not ill there is no evidence that you can infect anyone else if you are not coughing, especially if you are properly socially distanced.

I’m finding it quite funny seeing people wandering around outside wearing masks, or fiddling with them constantly, or wearing them over the mouth but not the nose, or removing them to talk or take a drink, all increasing their risk of infection. Personal favourite two people wearing masks- while driving in their car. Mask wearers also just about universally the worst at social distancing in my experience, false security I guess.

 

[Stroller]

It’s good that some on the Left like Stroller can actually first read articles by people like Hitchens, rather than go “urgh! Daily Mail. By default he’ll be saying all the things I disagree with”.

I can't really take any credit here, Ubes. I already had my opinion - Hichens just happens to agree with me.

 

[qprbeth]

What's your hair like? If it is normal ok, good advice . If it's wispy, blonde and has that fly away look to it I will dismiss your advice as fake news and refuse ever to read your posts again.

It is dark, short....and has always been an embarrassment to me.
It could not be more less Booris-Trumpe-sque if it tried.

 

[KooPeeArr]

You can get masks at all of those little sole trader hardware stores round my way - 3 grades, the pathetic surgical masks £1, then a more industrial looking thing £3 and a proper dust mask (for labourers) £4. All single use, but the last one ok for up to 8 hours. I got 3 of the latter for the family when the inevitable diktat happens, one for each member of the family, will be worn, in a mocking postmodern fashion, in shops only and reused. Purely for social acceptance.

You can guarantee that there is no new evidence for the change of policy, and none will be published. There is no need for anyone who is healthy to wear a mask, it won’t protect you. If you are ill it could reduce the chances of you infecting someone else, but you shouldn’t be out anyway if you are ill should you? If you are carrying the virus but not ill there is no evidence that you can infect anyone else if you are not coughing, especially if you are properly socially distanced.

I’m finding it quite funny seeing people wandering around outside wearing masks, or fiddling with them constantly, or wearing them over the mouth but not the nose, or removing them to talk or take a drink, all increasing their risk of infection. Personal favourite two people wearing masks- while driving in their car. Mask wearers also just about universally the worst at social distancing in my experience, false security I guess.

I'll only wear a mask if it's made mandatory.

I'm back out running after a short hiatus and give people huge amounts of space, often running in the road and don't want to hamper the oxygen intake.

Also, we wipe down all shopping with dettol wipes (probably a pointless exercise but it helps my wife draw a line under inbound items) and wash the fruit. The thought of dealing with masks just seems like a job too far.

 

[sb_73]

I'll only wear a mask if it's made mandatory.

I'm back out running after a short hiatus and give people huge amounts of space, often running in the road and don't want to hamper the oxygen intake.

Also, we wipe down all shopping with dettol wipes (probably a pointless exercise but it helps my wife draw a line under inbound items) and wash the fruit. The thought of dealing with masks just seems like a job too far.

Absolutely. I started running (well jogging) at the beginning of the lockdown because the gyms are closed. It’s surprising how addictive it is.

And just remember, if Johnson reduces restrictions on Monday, it’s because he has protected the NHS so well that there is space for you in Intensive Care.

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

It is dark, short....and has always been an embarrassment to me.
It could not be more less Booris-Trumpe-sque if it tried.

That'll do me. Is it still that colour or does it come out of a bottle?. You can tell me. In confidence. Along with all other members of the Forum. Promise.

 

[KooPeeArr]

Absolutely. I started running (well jogging) at the beginning of the lockdown because the gyms are closed. It’s surprising how addictive it is.

And just remember, if Johnson reduces restrictions on Monday, it’s because he has protected the NHS so well that there is space for you in Intensive Care.

I was running a few times a week as lockdown began but my normal 4 mile route took me past the hospital and I stopped because it seemed irresponsible (to me or others).

Tried running on the spot in the garden but couldn't get motivated.

Now back out on the roads again and feel much better and happier for it.

Good on you for starting (post-gym). It is very addictive - I find there's either a decent time to be had or something to learn (mainly excuses of sleep, muscle fatigue or hydration levels but often an overambitious start) which you can't get on a treadmill or in the confines of a small garden.

 

[qprbeth]

That'll do me. Is it still that colour or does it come out of a bottle?. You can tell me. In confidence. Along with all other members of the Forum. Promise.

Yorkie...this is in total confidence...do not tell ANYONE ELSE...promise!

It is now very mousey brown, sort of "no colour" without being grey.
But the natural medium brown is out of a bottle... and due to some sort of genetic problem that affected my mother and my granddaughter, it has always been really thin and not much of it. So I keep it very short and hope no one notices.

Now you promise not to tell ANYONE

 

[SW Ranger]

Yorkie...this is in total confidence...do not tell ANYONE ELSE...promise!

It is now very mousey brown, sort of "no colour" without being grey.
But the natural medium brown is out of a bottle... and due to some sort of genetic problem that affected my mother and my granddaughter, it has always been really thin and not much of it. So I keep it very short and hope no one notices.

Now you promise not to tell ANYONE

Women colouring their hair! I’ve never heard of such a thing. Can’t be true, surely!
(Yorkshire told me - honest)

 

[kiwiqpr]

Now now Sw
We all promised Yorkie we wouldn't say who told us

 

[bobmid]

Have we done 100,000 tests yet?