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I really do not want the furlough scheme to come tumbling down on them.
As Stainsy said that scheme (although not perfect...but what scheme could be) is a godsend and the Nightingale Hospital are two positives things the government has done
I agree
 
Boris announces 200,000 tests before end of May.
And before stroller nags me again, we have only acheived 100,000 so far on 1 day that being 30th April, when 40,000 home tests kits were sent out. (Perhaps today will be the second day who knows?)

The testing is being confounded by a large amount of tests coming back unclear, which in some cases is caused by the difficulty of doing the home kit yourself. Imagine stickin a stick down the back of your throat and rubbing it around (The USA have a saliva kit, but we decided not to buy it)

There is now a new problem, it appears the CoVid is a rapid mutator, which could well mess up the test kit we now have.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52557955

Got to say life is not easy being a scientist

Before you nag Bobmid ...69,000 tests yesterday still going down.

Apparently it is our fault . They have the capacity, but no one is going to have the tests.
Maybe, because -

With the drive in centres the NHS and care workers are all too tired to drive to the test centres to get a test at the end of a shift

Many of the rest of us have been told not to drive out (my nearest test centre is 25 miles away) and I have to book first

so many of the tests are now retests for various reeasons (estimated as at least 10-25%).

I am sure that 200,000 homes will get a home test kit on May 30th
 
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We shouldn't and cant really measure against other countries, so here is another graph doing just that!

Why is no one asking about our excess deaths versus other countries which avoids the daily cop out about how we shouldn’t compare countries when they pretend we count all deaths?
 
Never thought of it like that.....yeah does make sense. However the fact that these companies are now putting up plans of making many of their staff redundant and then outsourcing the work, so getting workers in cheaper wages, makes a mockery of why the scheme was set up in the first place.

Of course my view is jaded through my hatred of big business.
It’s politics mate. Every single decision made is political. Regardless of Party.
I am not going to say cheat, but use the system to their advantage. You could say that is neccessary for the good of their own company. So we the tax payers pay/will pay for many years to come for these workers, when some firms take government money when they could take some of the "hit" themselves...Costa, McD etc..

I am not as trusting as you are I am afraid. I think there are too many people are ****s who require a bit of re-education.
I am in a feisty mood, because I have just emerged from six straight hours of conference calls.

I’m not especially trusting I just don’t think it’s ‘human nature’ to be a ****. It’s not firms who make these decisions. It’s individuals who work for firms who collude with other individuals to somehow convince themselves that knowingly ripping off the rest of society is not a decision that they have made but one that the ‘firm’ has made. So they can go home have dinner and get a good nights sleep. They are the same as tax avoiders/evaders* and benefits cheats. Saying it’s ‘human nature’ implies that this behaviour is hardwired into us all. I still don’t believe it is. I also don’t believe that courage, self sacrifice and generosity are ‘human nature’, they are active decisions that people make. The most I’ll give to human nature is the odd blend of us being both essentially communal creatures who are simultaneously self interested and individualistic. Which creates tension, both between and within individuals.

None of which has anything to do with the pandemic, so just ignore me.

* sorry Ubes I can never remember which is the truly naughty one.
 
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Here's the Sumption interview, starting at about 07.10...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000hwg7

Have to say, I am very much in agreement with him.
No, can’t do it. I’ll just hear ‘....the balance of our human stock is threatened’. Not saying he is wrong on this issue at all. Why don’t you just summarise it and pretend it’s your own words? I’ll believe you.:emoticon-0105-wink:
 
No, can’t do it. I’ll just hear ‘....the balance of our human stock is threatened’. Not saying he is wrong on this issue at all. Why don’t you just summarise it and pretend it’s your own words? I’ll believe you.:emoticon-0105-wink:

He's really summarising the stuff I've posted on here about the lockdown. He does put it rather better, though.
 
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