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CroydonCaptainJack said:
Ridiculous comment.
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Name one then. Name something they got right first time in this charade.

Things they got horribly wrong;

Not enough PPE despite warning from Cygnus

Failed to close down mass public gatherings in time to stop spread

PM too slow to get involved with COBRA

Caught the virus themselves

Allowed relatives without symptoms to get tested

Started off on a poor strategy and had to backtrack

Failed to implement any form of lockdown before it was too late

Too slow to implement social distancing

Too slow to begin testing

Set unrealistic testing target

Lied about achieving unrealistic testing target

Feel free to add to what WILL be a much bigger list! 47,000 and counting!
 
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stick said:
Name one then. Name something they got right first time in this charade.

Things they got horribly wrong;

Not enough PPE despite warning from Cygnus

Failed to close down mass public gatherings in time to stop spread

PM too slow to get involved with COBRA

Caught the virus themselves

Allowed relatives without symptoms to get tested

Started off on a poor strategy and had to backtrack

Failed to implement any form of lockdown before it was too late

Too slow to implement social distancing

Too slow to begin testing

Set unrealistic testing target

Lied about achieving unrealistic testing target

Feel free to add to what WILL be a much bigger list! 47,000 and counting!
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You've gone pretty light to be fair
 
It's so bloody easy to criticise the governments handling of coronavirus. I genuinely wish it wasnt. I really want to hear from those with examples of how they think this has been handled well or at the very least, not as bad as myself and millions of others think. Jeff, cant be arsed, CCJ just doesn't want to ramble and Ellers evades the question. I'm genuinely intrigued.
 
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I'm in a position, at the moment, of not having a political party I would vote for. One thing that is becoming more and more apparent each day is that I certainly couldn't bring myself to support or vote for a party that's actions and lies have resulted in actual deaths of their electorate. It's like lending a bullet to the bloke who intends to shoot you!
 
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stick said:
Name one then. Name something they got right first time in this charade.

Things they got horribly wrong;

Not enough PPE despite warning from Cygnus

Failed to close down mass public gatherings in time to stop spread

PM too slow to get involved with COBRA

Caught the virus themselves

Allowed relatives without symptoms to get tested

Started off on a poor strategy and had to backtrack

Failed to implement any form of lockdown before it was too late

Too slow to implement social distancing

Too slow to begin testing

Set unrealistic testing target

Lied about achieving unrealistic testing target

Feel free to add to what WILL be a much bigger list! 47,000 and counting!
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I think CCJ is just typing a list, bear with him.
 
I read somewhere that the leader in Scotland missed six cobra meetings
Does she do her part online or is she expected to traipse down to London every time a meeting is called
That's even if the whole missing meetings thing is true
 
kiwiqpr said:
I read somewhere that the leader in Scotland missed six cobra meetings
Does she do her part online or is she expected to traipse down to London every time a meeting is called
That's even if the whole missing meetings thing is true
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According to reports in The Sunday Mail, the First Minister skipped the crucial UK Government meetings and did not attend her first until March 2 - the same day the first case of the virus was confirmed in Scotland.

A Scottish Government spokeswoman said: “The First Minister has been chairing meetings of the Scottish Government Resilience Committee, our equivalent of Cobra, since January 29.


“The Scottish Government has been represented at all Cobra ministerial meetings on coronavirus that we have been invited to. We often receive only limited advance notice of such meetings.”

Last week the SNP Westminister leader criticised Boris Johnson after it was revealed he missed five Cobra meetings.

Many readers voiced concern that the First Minister had missed the meetings while others defended the decision.

John Davidson wrote: "Fact is she was at times given a days notice to which she could not attend as prior arrangements had been organised. A representative for the Scottish Government was in her place."


READ MORE: Nicola Sturgeon 'missed six coronavirus Cobra meetings' as virus spread to Scotland

Richard Richardson commented: "Worth noting he UK government made no attempt to score points by revealing Sturgeons non-attendance at Cobra meetings at the time when Johnsons non-attendance became known. The non-attendance initially by both Johnson and Sturgeon is further evidence that both severely underestimated the seriousness of the threat that Covid19 presented."

Writing in the comment section Susan Randle asked:"Why did Blackford call Boris' non-attendance "jaw-dropping"?

Keith Ambler wrote: "If this is true how embarrassing for Blackford who now has to criticise his leader in public as he did the PM."

READ MORE: Boris Johnson 'skipped five Cobra meetings on coronavirus and ignored scientist warnings'


Derek Miller commented: "Both the PM and FM missed Cobra meetings. In all instances, they were represented by capable deputies who, presumably, briefed them on outcomes. There is nothing to get excited about. Having lambasted Boris, Mr Blackford has made a bit of a fool of himself. It'll teach him from playing petty politics in this most challenging of eras."
 
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stick said:
One day you wake up and realise that you are nearly sixty. You read that Michael Robinson died and think thats no age! You, only you, still think you are fairly young. You think...Jesus, when I was a kid 60 was about waiting to slip off this mortal coil.
You have a complete disconnect from being old and feeling old.
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I think we should state what it is that makes us realise we are now as old as we are. For me the most obvious is that over time I have realised I can't stand today's pop music and the only new music I ever buy is from someone who was starting his career in the 60s -80s. Can't remember the last time I went to see a performer who was under the age of 40. There are more obvious signs such as not remembering names, creaking first thing in the morning and not being able to read signs at a distance.
 
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YorkshireHoopster said:
I think we should state what it is that makes us realise we are now as old as we are. For me the most obvious is that over time I have realised I can't stand today's pop music and the only new music I ever buy is from someone who was starting his career in the 60s -80s. Can't remember the last time I went to see a performer who was under the age of 40. There are more obvious signs such as not remembering names, creaking first thing in the morning and not being able to read signs at a distance.
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That last one is the reason I have to wear glasses while driving
 
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YorkshireHoopster said:
I think we should state what it is that makes us realise we are now as old as we are. For me the most obvious is that over time I have realised I can't stand today's pop music and the only new music I ever buy is from someone who was starting his career in the 60s -80s. Can't remember the last time I went to see a performer who was under the age of 40. There are more obvious signs such as not remembering names, creaking first thing in the morning and not being able to read signs at a distance.
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I can't stand pop music, but never have! Last music I bought was live album of IDLES, who whilst not old, must be in their early 30s. I stream most of my music anyway. I go to see plenty of bands whose members are in their late teens, early twenties - but also plenty who are well into their 40s, so it's more of a genre thing I'd guess as opposed to the age of the artist.

I do ache most mornings though, go to bed earlier, don't drink anywhere near as much as I did, and unfortunately appear to be much more sensible than I used to be (most of the time anyway) - and I now need reading glasses which is devastating <laugh>
 
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They are beginning to wind down the London Nightingale hospital after no new patients admitted in a week. As Hancock confessed yesterday the beds there are only suitable for intubated patients in need of oxygen/ventilation (no I don’t know how many ventilators it actually had, this no longer seems to be an issue) so it can’t be useful capacity for the NHS to catch up on the backlog of other work. The Birmingham version hasn’t been used at all.

The obvious thing to do would be to use these facilities for COVID19 patients only, freeing up the hospitals for non COVID19 treatment. But then we hit the issue of who would staff these huge units. The CEO of Birmingham University Hospitals Trust, who was responsible for the Birmingham Nightingale has said he is delighted that the unit hasn’t been used as he hasn’t got the staff to open it.

Now, no criticism from me on the decision to set up these facilities, the government would have rightly been criticised mercilessly should the capacity have been needed. But huge criticism for the disease modellers who predicted that not just some extra capacity would be needed, but a potential 8,000 beds around the country, and for the health service advisors who clearly didn’t think raising the issue of staffing was important. It begs the question - how wrong have their other predictions been? The policy makers are really on a hiding to nothing if they are receiving ‘expert’ advice of this calibre, which also said we would need thousands more ventilators.
 
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sb_73 said:
They are beginning to wind down the London Nightingale hospital after no new patients admitted in a week. As Hancock confessed yesterday the beds there are only suitable for intubated patients in need of oxygen/ventilation (no I don’t know how many ventilators it actually had, this no longer seems to be an issue) so it can’t be useful capacity for the NHS to catch up on the backlog of other work. The Birmingham version hasn’t been used at all.

The obvious thing to do would be to use these facilities for COVID19 patients only, freeing up the hospitals for non COVID19 treatment. But then we hit the issue of who would staff these huge units. The CEO of Birmingham University Hospitals Trust, who was responsible for the Birmingham Nightingale has said he is delighted that the unit hasn’t been used as he hasn’t got the staff to open it.

Now, no criticism from me on the decision to set up these facilities, the government would have rightly been criticised mercilessly should the capacity have been needed. But huge criticism for the disease modellers who predicted that not just some extra capacity would be needed, but a potential 8,000 beds around the country, and for the health service advisors who clearly didn’t think raising the issue of staffing was important. It begs the question - how wrong have their other predictions been? The policy makers are really on a hiding to nothing if they are receiving ‘expert’ advice of this calibre, which also said we would need thousands more ventilators.
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