Off Topic Coronavirus

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Did the TV just say a huge amount of masks are being flown from UK to Spain, Germany, Italy because the UK government doesn't want them and the manufacturer has sold then on? If true I hope we don't run out of masks. Own goal here. <doh>
 
Here in Thailand it is against the law now not to wear a mask when you go out. Always wore one anyway when we went out shopping, once this corona appeared. They obviously both reduce the chances of you passing on the virus you may have but not know it, and give some protection from infection. So why not wear them? Doesnt hurt! In my experience, you don't try to fiddle with your face when wearing one.Seems to be a cultural hate of them in Europe that people cant get over even now, when the spead of the virus looks far greater in Europe than in Asian countries where it is normal to wear a mask. I think the hot, humid climate here and in other neighbouring countries also helps, the most dangerous environments are the air conditioned shops and offices. I'm hoping for a long hot summer in Europe and N.America.
 
sb_73 said:
I just hope the advisors and ministers show some spine on this one. The scientific consensus is really clear - proper fluid repellent masks are needed for health care workers in close contact with infected patients, people who are infected should wear them (though if they have symptoms they should not be out in public anyway) to help prevent them infecting others. Nobody else needs them, they should stay 2 metres apart and wash their hands frequently. What I’ve been doing for what feels like a lifetime now so far successfully. This is the advice issues by the WHO, very explicitly (though I’m cautious about what a pinball wizard knows about this stuff) and even those countries, like Hong Kong and Japan, where mask wearing is a habit.

Massive risk of false sense of security from this. If they do it they should issue (not promise to issue, actually issue) everyone in the country with proper effective masks (either reusable or in bulk) with training on how to use them.
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I just spent £10 in the corner shop on a pack of 10 totally useless masks. They look like J-Cloths with a bit of elastic attached and probably cost the retailer no more than £1. Ridiculous and worthless, but I got them so that I would be able to continue using public transport when the next pointless restriction is imposed..
 
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Stroller said:
I just spent £10 in the corner shop on a pack of 10 totally useless masks. They look like J-Cloths with a bit of elastic attached and probably cost the retailer no more than £1. Ridiculous and worthless, but I got them so that I would be able to continue using public transport when the next pointless restriction is imposed..
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And here's me thinking you were an intelligent guy strolls
 
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West WindsR said:
Doesn’t bode brilliantly. Wonder who will get the short straw for today’s presser.
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Hancock seems to have vanished. Patel is too doom and gloom. Rishi was yesterday. Raab is too scared. The business secretary is too posh. They may need to reboot Gove or Jenrick.
 
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West WindsR said:
Doesn’t bode brilliantly. Wonder who will get the short straw for today’s presser.
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I actually think the government should have used someone with experience in the top job. Why didn't they drag out May or Cameron? Tell them to get clued up on all the scientific/NHS data and get out there. I find it lacks continuity when we see a different person each day.
 
ELLERS said:
Hancock seems to have vanished. Petel is too doom and gloom. Rishi was yesterday. Raab is too scared. The business secretary is too posh. They may need to reboot Gove or Jenrick.
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Cant see it being Jenprick after this turkey PPE fiasco. Would it be fair to say that they lied on national tv. Time will tell.
 
ELLERS said:
I actually think the government should have used someone with experience in the top job. Why didn't they drag out May or Cameron? Tell them to get clued up on all the scientific/NHS data and get out there. I find it lacks continuity when we see a different person each day.
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They certainly need some help from somewhere
 
ELLERS said:
I actually think the government should have used someone with experience in the top job. Why didn't they drag out May or Cameron? Tell them to get clued up on all the scientific/NHS data and get out there. I find it lacks continuity when we see a different person each day.
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Wouldn’t exactly have been a ringing endorsement if they had to wheel out “remainer” Cameron or “traitor” May. I agree though we should have as many adults in the room as possible ideally including begging that Sally whatshername to be involved who Beth says would have helped.

Like or loathe them (obviously I think they’re mainly useless ****s) it’s an inexperienced Cabinet even if some of them might prove to be brilliant intelligent politicians (they won’t, obviously. Maybe Sunak).
 
Ninj said:
what I would love to see are the figures showing how many have survived the virus....
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This is missing part of the jigsaw. They said last week that they thought that perhaps 10% of the population had had the virus, but how can they know? Many will have no symptoms and many more will have mild symptoms. Without sufficient testing for those with the virus, and with no test at all for those who have had it, we're in the dark and the mortality statistics are meaningless.
 
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This is missing part of the jigsaw. They said last week that they thought that perhaps 10% of the population had had the virus, but how can they know? Many will have no symptoms and many more will have mild symptoms. Without sufficient testing for those with the virus, and with no test at all for those who have had it, we're in the dark, and the mortality statistics are meaningless.
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Chill. 100k a day will be tested in just nine days.
 
Stroller said:
This is missing part of the jigsaw. They said last week that they thought that perhaps 10% of the population had had the virus, but how can they know? Many will have no symptoms and many more will have mild symptoms. Without sufficient testing for those with the virus, and with no test at all for those who have had it, we're in the dark and the mortality statistics are meaningless.
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How P'd off will people be if after we finally get tested something like 70% of the population had it or are asymptomatic?
 
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