Off Topic Coronavirus

[Star of David Bardsley]

All the socialists on social media will no doubt be wishing him ill.

No politics please, Col.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Now Health Secretary Matt Hancock has it.

Someone had to explain to him what it was first though.

 

[Staines R's]

All the socialists on social media will no doubt be wishing him ill.

Im sure he’ll get over it Col.....along with all the other celebs and the like who wear their condition like a badge of honour......
It’s Ethel from Isleworth or Sidney from Hounslow that I’d be more concerned about.

 

[jeffranger]

Grim news Staines but lockdown has got to happen sooner rather than later, totally understand the stress your under with the work load & still doing a great job, take care

 

[Staines R's]

Grim news Staines but lockdown has got to happen sooner rather than later, totally understand the stress your under with the work load & still doing a great job, take care

Please don’t take that post as gospel mate.....could be a load of old tosh....but like a lot of these things that go around, there definitely is some basis of fact.

 

[ELLERS]

Someone had to explain to him what it was first though.

His symptoms have been described as 'weak'

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

His symptoms have been described as 'weak'

It was just a joke about how he always looks a bit vacant. Remarkably strong academically which rarely seems to come across when he’s in front of a camera. Probably quite an interesting guy in private.

 

[ELLERS]

Im sure he’ll get over it Col.....along with all the other celebs and the like who wear their condition like a badge of honour......
It’s Ethel from Isleworth or Sidney from Hounslow that I’d be more concerned about.

We are all humans there should be no distinguishing.

 

[Sooperhoop]

Has anyone else got this ?
Seems to be doing the rounds......might be the usual bullshit rumours going about when this sort of thing goes on.



This is a full and frank message. Please forward to the rest of the family, and your loved ones if you choose.

I had a meeting today with our Medical Director, who has been in touch with government. The following therefore has some authority.

By the weekend, London will be in full lockdown, with Army manned checkpoints. Only key workers, NHS staff, police, ambulance, fire, delivery drivers, and teachers looking after the children of the above, will be allowed to move around the city.

By next week, those restrictions will apply to the country.

Tonight Lewisham Hospital is overwhelmed, ambulances on divert, and only a few ventilators left. QEH is close behind. My Trust is in the frontline of this epidemic, mainly due to local demographics. The rest of the NHS is probably little more than a week behind. We have denied critical care to four patients today, who will die as a result.

I must now be clear. Anyone over 75 years old will be denied critical care; anyone over 65 with diseases, eg diabetes, COPD, will be denied critical care. We are ramping up palliative care services. If an elderly patient falls sick, and requires hospital care, there will be an immediate DNAR order on them. They will be palliated, and they will live or die. The government forecast of 250,000 deaths is, we believe, hopelessly optimistic.

The mortality rate is very high in the elderly. The ICU stay on a ventilator even in survivors is about three weeks. We will run out of ventilators in a week.

The Army is setting up field hospitals, no doubt with squaddies manually bagging patients.

You will not hear this from Boris Johnson for a few days. But please be assured it is coming. We are two weeks behind Italy.

For the family therefore, anyone over 65 is to self isolate, possibly for many weeks. Maintain contact through frequent video calls. If they need food or supplies, take them over and leave the bags on the doorstep, and wave at them from at least a six foot distance. They are not to touch the bags for 15 minutes. Do not visit for 14 days if you or anyone in your household is unwell with and fever, cough or 'flu like symptoms. If you are unwell, stay indoors, along with your whole family. Have a neighbour or a friend drop off supplies, with no social contact.

We need to blunt the curve, which is right now exponentially rising.

For myself, you cannot imagine the stress we are under. The awful decisions we will have to make. We will be taking otherise healthy 60 year olds off a ventilator to die so we can save a 30 year old.

Please stay safe. I'll email when I can with news from the frontline.

With much love to you all,

I've noticed in the breakdown by boroughs that Lambeth & Southwark are the two highest case boroughs and Lewisham Hospital is in the LLS Health Authority. I'd guess as soon as Excel is up and running all cases will be sent there to relieve the pressure but they can only do so much. The clinical decisions regarding age are already in use in Italy and Spain so it's going to be a harrowing few weeks for sure. We can only pray we're lucky...

 

[ELLERS]

I've noticed in the breakdown by boroughs that Lambeth & Southwark are the two highest case boroughs and Lewisham Hospital is in the LLS Health Authority. I'd guess as soon as Excel is up and running all cases will be sent there to relieve the pressure but they can only do so much. The clinical decisions regarding age are already in use in Italy and Spain so it's going to be a harrowing few weeks for sure. We can only pray we're lucky...

There is an interesting article which I read today from an Italian doctor. He gave out percentages of cases/age/health. Quite scary. SkyNews said 32 in Spain old people died in the same home yesterday and the other 250 have all tested positive for Covid-19. It's a spreader and the fomite transmission (I learnt that word last night) is a massive worry.

 

[Staines R's]

We are all humans there should be no distinguishing.

That wasn’t my point, as I think you realise.

 

[Sooperhoop]

Brilliant. Was she on a ventilator at any stage? I’d really like to know the numbers of patients who end up in ITU or being ventilated who pull through.

Not sure what treatment she had, apparently 11 days, so you would assume some of it required some sort of breathing assistance...

 

[sb_73]

Has anyone else got this ?
Seems to be doing the rounds......might be the usual bullshit rumours going about when this sort of thing goes on.



This is a full and frank message. Please forward to the rest of the family, and your loved ones if you choose.

I had a meeting today with our Medical Director, who has been in touch with government. The following therefore has some authority.

By the weekend, London will be in full lockdown, with Army manned checkpoints. Only key workers, NHS staff, police, ambulance, fire, delivery drivers, and teachers looking after the children of the above, will be allowed to move around the city.

By next week, those restrictions will apply to the country.

Tonight Lewisham Hospital is overwhelmed, ambulances on divert, and only a few ventilators left. QEH is close behind. My Trust is in the frontline of this epidemic, mainly due to local demographics. The rest of the NHS is probably little more than a week behind. We have denied critical care to four patients today, who will die as a result.

I must now be clear. Anyone over 75 years old will be denied critical care; anyone over 65 with diseases, eg diabetes, COPD, will be denied critical care. We are ramping up palliative care services. If an elderly patient falls sick, and requires hospital care, there will be an immediate DNAR order on them. They will be palliated, and they will live or die. The government forecast of 250,000 deaths is, we believe, hopelessly optimistic.

The mortality rate is very high in the elderly. The ICU stay on a ventilator even in survivors is about three weeks. We will run out of ventilators in a week.

The Army is setting up field hospitals, no doubt with squaddies manually bagging patients.

You will not hear this from Boris Johnson for a few days. But please be assured it is coming. We are two weeks behind Italy.

For the family therefore, anyone over 65 is to self isolate, possibly for many weeks. Maintain contact through frequent video calls. If they need food or supplies, take them over and leave the bags on the doorstep, and wave at them from at least a six foot distance. They are not to touch the bags for 15 minutes. Do not visit for 14 days if you or anyone in your household is unwell with and fever, cough or 'flu like symptoms. If you are unwell, stay indoors, along with your whole family. Have a neighbour or a friend drop off supplies, with no social contact.

We need to blunt the curve, which is right now exponentially rising.

For myself, you cannot imagine the stress we are under. The awful decisions we will have to make. We will be taking otherise healthy 60 year olds off a ventilator to die so we can save a 30 year old.

Please stay safe. I'll email when I can with news from the frontline.

With much love to you all,

Who is it from? Might well be true, but I can’t see what good it serves to put this in the public domain (not a dig at you M). The stuff about 250k deaths being optimistic in particular.

 

[Staines R's]

Who is it from? Might well be true, but I can’t see what good it serves to put this in the public domain (not a dig at you M). The stuff about 250k deaths being optimistic in particular.

I just got it sent by a friend.....not medical and could very well be one of these ‘fake news’ things that tend to do the rounds when this sort of thing happens.....just thought it was worthy of discussion.

 

[ELLERS]

Who is it from? Might well be true, but I can’t see what good it serves to put this in the public domain (not a dig at you M). The stuff about 250k deaths being optimistic in particular.

I read the first bit and thought... what a load of crap.
I read the next bit and thought... b222222's.
I don't get people who make up and spread this 2222.

 

[Staines R's]

I read the first bit and thought... what a load of crap.
I read the next bit and thought... b222222's.
I don't get people who make up and spread this 2222.

Yeah you’re right Ellers, probably the same people who.......nah I’ll leave it there

 

[ELLERS]

182 deaths today... gone up by 67 from yesterday

 

[Sooperhoop]

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[ELLERS]

Yeah you’re right Ellers, probably the same people who.......nah I’ll leave it there

Staines the net is full of people who come out with s22t like this. They crave attention and like to sound important. It's an insecurity thing. These things always start with something like "I got this from a mate who is high up in the government or medical profession". Don't be fooled by it. As if the government would let something like this leak?
Seriously if you want to believe it, then thats your call.

 

[Staines R's]

Staines the net is full of people who come out with s22t like this. They crave attention and like to sound important. It's an insecurity thing. These things always start with something like "I got this from a mate who is high up in the government or medical profession". Don't be fooled by it. As if the government would let something like this leak?
Seriously if you want to believe it, then thats your call.

Never said I believed it (totally) as was made clear in my original post....as I said to G.....I thought it would merit discussion.