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EU want to get their hands on our vaccine. Well they can just fck off.
Their fault for being so slow
They are just jealous of the uk’s good organisation.
The EU are like a bunch of kids crying when they don’t get what they want
So what’s new
 
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2 pennth said:
EU want to get their hands on our vaccine. Well they can just fck off.
Their fault for being so slow
They are just jealous of the uk’s good organisation.
The EU are like a bunch of kids crying when they don’t get what they want
So what’s new
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Whilst I sort of agree with you, it's in retaliation to the UK based Astrazenica not delivering what they promised. Pfizer are also having problems so they're effectively saying if Astrazenica don't deliver then they'll keep the lion's share of the EU made Pfizer vaccine.

If it were the other way around and the EU were failing to provide what they promised us while we were exporting millions of our own vaccines, then I bet most people would agree with lowering the exports to make up for it.

There's going to be a lot of political football going on with this one and it's us ordinary citizens that will suffer from it.
 
We definitely have been head and shoulders above most countries with the rollout but we're going to get to a point where it's more about supply than logistics.
 
lufctommo said:
Whilst I sort of agree with you, it's in retaliation to the UK based Astrazenica not delivering what they promised. Pfizer are also having problems so they're effectively saying if Astrazenica don't deliver then they'll keep the lion's share of the EU made Pfizer vaccine.

If it were the other way around and the EU were failing to provide what they promised us while we were exporting millions of our own vaccines, then I bet most people would agree with lowering the exports to make up for it.

There's going to be a lot of political football going on with this one and it's us ordinary citizens that will suffer from it.
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As I understand it the EU have not as yet authorised the Astra/Zeneca vaccine
Why because it is mainly British
Also because the EU is just a talking shop
We the uk have been hardest hit in Europe and all they can do is talk about limiting our supplies
They need to learn to negotiate behind closed doors instead of banging public drums they have short memories
The idea in my view of coming out of the EU was for us to be more self sufficient and bring our manufacturing base back into the UK
Astra/Zeneca are proving how important this is
The Scots are getting their fair share of available vaccine wonder what they would be getting if they were in the EU
All this argument over the vaccine doesn’t surprise me in the least was bound to happen
 
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Lee Rigby’s killer fighting for life in hospital with Covid

One of Lee Rigby’s killers is fighting for his life in hospital after catching coronavirus. It was reported Michael Adebowale, 29, was moved from Broadmoor Hospital last week after his condition deteriorated.

A source told the Sun: ‘He’s in a very bad way and fighting for every breath. ‘It’s reached the stage where it’s a 24/7 battle. If he deteriorates much further, intensive care would be the next step. He’s very young to be affected so badly.’ Adebowale and Michael Adebolajo ran over 25-year-old Fusilier Rigby close to Woolwich Barracks, in south-east London, in May 2013 before stabbing him to death in broad daylight.

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The dad-of-one died as a result of multiple cut and stab wounds after the attack fuelled by Adebowale and Adebolajo’s extremist beliefs, described as a ‘betrayal of Islam’ at their murder trial in 2014. Adebowale is serving a life sentence for the brutal killing. The 25-year-old soldier was brutally killed in broad daylight in May 2013 close to Woolwich Barracks.

Lee’s mum, Lyn Rigby, 53, said: ‘It would not be justice for Covid-19 to take this man prematurely and end the sentence handed to him. ‘We’ve maintained true justice for Lee is to see his killers remain behind bars and serve every day of their sentence.’ Adebowale was said to have tested positive a fortnight ago, and is receiving oxygen but not on a ventilator.
 
2 pennth said:
As I understand it the EU have not as yet authorised the Astra/Zeneca vaccine
Why because it is mainly British
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There were some rumors that it won't get EU approval because of its low efficacy. A few German papers recently claimed it's as low as 8% in over 65's, this almost certainly isn't true, but it does appear to be lower that the Pfizer one. The issue Astrazeneca have is that they started trials primarily focusing on the under 55's so there's not much data to dispute the number.

Public opinion seems to moving towards Pfizer too as anecdotally, there seem to be a lot more people reporting stronger side effects from Astrazeneca.

Even if it is a little less effective though, I can't see a reason for not approving it. As you say, it seems to be more about public bargaining with the pro/anti EU rhetoric rather than coming up with actual solutions.
 
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